as explained in this post, the original implementation of “private voting” has already been replaced with non-federated voting, which addresses the abuse concerns, as it’s then limited to just the instance the votes are cast on.
other accounts:
- @MrKaplan@piefed.world
- @MrKaplan@discuss.online (not actively monitored)
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it’s the software, similar to how you’re using lemmy right now
no notification of a moderation event
lemmy.world has notifications for local users or users in local communities for removed content.
piefed is a fair bit younger, the first commitin the git repo was on Fri Jul 28 02:07:44 2023 +0000. it has only in recent months started really picking up some traction with several lemmy instances already creating piefed instances as well.
did you see an orange/white cloudflare error page or something else? i tried searching for it in our server logs but i don’t find it.
you may however have hit an outage we had for several minutes around an hour before your comment due to running out of memory on the host.
lemmy doesn’t support subscribing to users, but you can subscribe to communities the same way you’d subscribe to other communities from other instances.
what kind of error did you see and what did you click on? a link to a post?
piefed doesn’t support animated media yet, iirc it doesn’t work in posts either
pixelfed supports signing in with mastodon, not sure about others
pretty much, yeah. different people, different programming languages, some feature differences, etc. but still the same content.
nobody needs to move to another platform. both lemmy and piefed show the same content, think of it more like using a different client that also has different features. both lemmy.world and piefed.world will continue to exist.
not that i know of. old.lemmy.world is a whole separate user interface, but a similar look can probably be achieved with themes alone.
no, accounts are completely separate.
piefed does have some social auth support, which is currently also being worked on, but lemmy is not an auth provider that can be used with that. once social auth in piefed becomes more stable we will consider enabling it for supported providers.
MrKaplan@lemmy.worldto Fediverse@lemmy.world•What is happening on Programming.dev instance?English4·11 days agoi think the graph might not be fully accurate for the current hour? looking at it now it doesn’t show that significant of a spike anymore. i don’t see anything in our logs about federation issues from LW to p.d in the last 15 days.
MrKaplan@lemmy.worldto Fediverse@lemmy.world•lemm.ee is shutting down at the end of this monthEnglish5·1 month agoI don’t see us going down anytime soon, and at current user numbers I don’t think there’s going to be a major difference in moderation workload with the influx of users compared to what we already have, but it really is not great for decentralization. We already try delegating the majority of moderation to community moderators where applicable, where on a lot of other instances the admin teams seem to be more involved in addressing community reports on admin level as well. For the most part we’re dealing only with instance level topics in the admin team and provide some additional tooling to improve report notifications to community mods. There are even various benefits from a moderation perspective when users are all local and not remote, as with federation a lot of signals that would allow various types of abuse are unfortunately lost. That said, I would still prefer if there were more stable and larger instances overall, while not having a single instance stand out as massively larger than any other one. Friendly “competition” is almost always beneficial for everyone involved.
lemm.ee being the second largest instance and the shutdown only being announced less than a month before is unfortunately also not something that gives people looking for a stable instance much confidence. I hope this won’t scare too many users away from Lemmy and that most will just find a new instance in the Fediverse.
Instance moderation and moderation in general are unfortunately tasks that can be very challenging at scale, even with just a few thousand users, especially when dealing with drama. It’s not really a surprise that there are somewhat frequently posts from larger instances looking for new admins, while older admins on the same instance are becoming less active. Even if people aren’t exhausted from their involvement, their circumstances in life may change, or they may no longer be interested in Lemmy as a platform in general, leading to a number of reasons why admins may not be as active as it seems when looking at the list of admins in an instance sidebar. It’s often a thankless job with a lot of things happening in the background to deal with spam, trolls and other issues, which most users won’t even see when done right.
MrKaplan@lemmy.worldto Fediverse@lemmy.world•Is there a Lemmy server/way that doesn't require allowing javascript of a million other servers?English2·2 months agotbh it’s probably not going to be too complicated to switch to 1.0. the current api is generated from lemmy-js-client, but 1.0 api has an official openapi file. if there is a decently usable openapi generator for go that would probably not be too complicated to swap in instead and adjust the api calls in mlmym code.
MrKaplan@lemmy.worldto Fediverse@lemmy.world•PrivacyGuides is testing ActivityPub federation on their Discourse forum 🎉English2·2 months agoalready did. it’s the same person running the infrastructure, although moderation of mstdn.party and mstdn.plus is handled by someone else.
we’ve since been in contact with the person running these services and the material has been taken down on lemmy.one, as well as lemmy.one closing down in three months.
we’re still discussing in our team how we will deal with this going forward and will be posting a new announcement about this in the coming days.
you can read https://lemmy.world/post/29550945 for our previous writeup about this.
it’s a combination of multiple issues.
lemmy federation has improved significantly over the past years, so if this was happening with lemmy instances today, especially online ones involved, this would be much less of an issue.
the original user posting this stuff was on a kbin instance. kbin/mbin still do not support federating bans of users. kbin is basically dead, mbin is tracking that here. when this was originally removed on kbin this never federated out to other platforms.
the next problem is that the original instance is no longer there, so attempting to address this with community bans from lemmys side is not working anymore if the user isn’t known to the instance anymore, as it can’t be refetched from the source. if the instances that the related communities are hosted on purged this user in the past they wouldn’t be able to federate out a community ban anymore.
another problem is that lemmy is typically configured in a way where it creates a local copy of thumbnails if no thumbnail url is provided by the source, which is what lead to a local copy of this material. in the end i consider this only a secondary issue, as while most people would rather not have this stored on their servers at all, if you allow media uploads you can never be 100% sure about the content uploaded to your server. this is therefore typically something where providers are expected to take action once they become aware of it. some providers are also taking preventative measures like scanning uploads, comparing to hash databases of known csam, etc. had the original instance ban or community bans been performed properly this would at least have removed public access to the stuff, as the media filenames are randomly generated and not guessable.
it’s generally not impossible to prevent stuff from returning to your instance once you have taken it down properly, but in cases where federation didn’t work, which could be for a wide range of reasons, including your instance being misconfigured during maintenance, your instance being defederated from an instance involved in the removal, and others, it may require local action. if i ban a user then no new content form that user is going to come to LW until they are unbanned again. this includes manually fetching posts or other content, so if i purge an old post of theirs the post wouldn’t be able to come back until the user gets unbanned.
the problem isn’t being able to see them in the thread but that you can’t open the user profile, so you don’t see if there are any comments.
lemmy currently doesn’t have granular federation controls. the only option right now is to defederate from mbin instances, but other instances might still announce your users’ votes to mbin instances. the more hacky way would be to also block federation related http requests from mbin instances to prevent them from retrieving user profiles, which is probably the most effective method that could be used.
piefeds non-federated votes are a user setting for the default value and users have the option for each vote whether it should be federated. see also https://piefed.social/post/982478