Yes I meant the on-site one developed by Reddit, but agreed that the centralized nature lends itself towards searching by Google.

Although the other way opens up a huge can of worms since every large, general-purpose instance will - due to the nature of how the ActivityPub protocol works - have basically all of the content of the entire Threadiverse. Or as near to that as it works for a first approximation anyway, e.g. someone deciding to index all content appearing on “Lemmy.World” would get all the memes, movie discussions, etc., missing chiefly things like piracy and anarchy and other things that LW has decided to ban. It won’t be “correct” in the sense of attribution to the OP, but once someone found their way to the content housed on LW they are but a click away from getting to its original source anyway. So from that standpoint, Google indexing I would naively have thought would not be all that difficult? Except for the increasingly niche content that isn’t federated with the largest instances, which is perhaps desirable anyway to not expose mainstream normies to content calling for e.g. actual murder in response to world events (such as occurs routinely on e.g. Hexbear).

A safer, sanitized version of the Threadiverse that is searchable by anyone works to all of our advantage, I would believe?

Yeah anything that involves comments doesn’t work so well - either them specifically or the combination of them and posts. And tbf it does retrieve the results of the query, it is only the sort options that fail miserably.

I’ve used Lemmy now for >2 years and the excuse that “it’s still in development” has very much worn thin when no changes at all have been made to this or so many other issues with it.

At least the search function is still better than Reddit’s! (Obligatory and reflexive fuck spex:-P)

Meta did try to make “Threads”, but (a) it failed miserably and (b) use of that term on Lemmy predates Meta trying to steal it. We don’t need to let them define us! And all the more so if there’s no better word - the next runner up in polls iirc is Forumverse, but people vastly prefer Threadiverse.:-)

Welcome fellow human! Ah… I mean “kid”, yes, we are just going to kill all sentient lifeforms “kidding” around here, certainly nothing for the authorities to get involved in, move along! :-P

A true Fedizen right here. Also Threadizen?

I need to stop mentioning flarum, but every time I do someone chimes in with “but it’s coming soon™!” So I just say what’s listed in !fediverse@piefed.social as if that were somehow official or something:-P.

Okay but don’t forget about the PieFed memes community!! !piefed_promo@piefed.social

Example post:

I have been using “Pie-heads”, b/c we are just crazy enough to make that work! :-P

And the network of Lemmy + PieFed + Mbin (+ nodeBB + flarum) as the “Threadiverse”, distinct from the wider Fediverse that also includes Mastodon, PixelFed, etc.

Tbf ActivityPub is the name of the protocol, and Fediverse is the name of the network, though is too generic so many of us have taken to calling us the “Threadiverse”, for threaded-based conversational format (Lemmy + Mbin + PieFed + nodeBB + flarum), as distinct from the user-centric Mastodon, the image-based Pixelfed, video-based Loops (not federated yet iirc), etc. Notably though, while it is not so easy, people can send messages between these e.g. from Mastodon to Lemmy (or PieFed) and vice versa.

Threadiverse = the subset of the Fediverse based on threaded conversations, applies to Lemmy, PieFed, Mbin, also nodeBB and somewhat flarum

How people will see us then:

Uh oh, I now have a problem: I cannot keep up with remembering all the new features added!? Oh well, I am very pleased to have this issue:-). (\s bc there are Release Notes)

I figured that you would be! :-)

Although to be clear, searching for content is not something that I do daily or even weekly, so personally I consider it much lower in prioritization than other feature requests, e.g. a comment reply has a Preview option but a top-level comment to a post does not (that button does not appear), notifications is still a bit wonky, particularly not interacting well with the newer feature that loads comments (when there is a larger number of them?) only after loading the post, and then by doing so fails to traverse to where the notification link was aiming to take me to, etc.

Though I suppose others may consider it higher priority, especially newer people evaluating PieFed, and probably working on the search back-end may be a lot more fun!? :-P

It is always nice to see new things coming to PieFed. This is the only software giving me any hope for social media right now:-).

Ooh (and tagging @mnmalst@lemmy.zip), this post seems very relevant in that community: Lemmy/old Reddit styles.

I don’t think so, here is the list of them (accessible for someone without a PieFed account, although for someone with an account it is under Settings -> Theme, change the dropdown then click Save settings, currently no way that I know of to test one out before saving): https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/branch/main/app/templates/themes

Not that I know of, and while I hate to shill for Lemmy rather than PieFed, there is just such an interface on the instance you are already on: https://old.lemmy.zip/ . That does sound like a great idea for someone to make though…

Searching by “posts” on Lemmy is actually superior to searching on PieFed, though searching by “all” or “comments” on Lemmy is absolutely borken (haha misspelled unintentionally but Imma just leave it there as it fits so well!?:-P). Reputedly Lemmy’s search is about to add the ability to filter on post “titles” separately from the rest of the text, which sounds very nice.

So it’s hit or miss what works or not on Lemmy. PieFed’s search is the singular feature that is currently very behind compared to Lemmy, but like everything else I expect PieFed to rapidly overtake Lemmy one day soon-ish. Therefore I use a PieFed account as my daily main, but when I want to search for something I still switch back to Lemmy (you don’t even need an account for that though).

No… well yes, obviously 🤣, but not exclusively I mean.

Example 1

Example 2, with this seemingly relevant excerpt:

The overton window there is not even big enough to allow all Dems to express opinions. A Bernie progressive like me who occasionally expresses a mainstream Dem opinion is too rightwing for lemmy.world

And further down the comment chain the same person says:

how was I supposed to know lemmy.world was one of lemmy’s worst sites when I fled to lemmy in the reddit exodus? As a Bernie progressive it took me a long time to figure out how tightly censored their discussions were.

This person sounds like if not an actual liberal then at most a centrist who was seeking help in understanding a specific issue (which is linked there in the comments), but got kicked out for trying to discuss it. Tbf there truly do need to be safe spaces I get that, so I’m not coming down hard on any particular examples or even a particular style of solution - and I certainly am not advocating for cessation of moderation!!! (Nor do I agree in the slightest that lemmy.world is one of Lemmy’s worst sites or even a particularly bad one) I am just providing this context of why people say that they have left Lemmy, even those extremely few that joined here in the first place, so having gotten over the “too confusing to figure out” stage.

If I were to advocate for a solution, it might be to create some spaces that are more welcoming to centrists, which would mean proper labeling of spaces not like in “correct vs. absolutely horribly and morally bankrupt” but more “left vs. right” (which itself is difficult to describe as it depends on local context). Or at least be honest about how this place is, i.e. give up any hopes that it will ever grow much beyond what it is now. Purity beatings will continue until morale improves… and if you don’t like it then you can leav- hey where are you going!? (screeching) Don’t you know what a “nice man” I am!?! 🤣