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      In his defence, the first use of female was correct, “those who are young single and female” as an adjective. I’d say that the second one is wrong, but they did use women above too so I’d attribute it to having written female just above and typical 4chan brainrot. I’d keep an eye on this one but not crucify yet

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          And yes this could include any young women and girls but instead of saying both nouns he says one noun that includes both discriptors which is female instead of girl or young women

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                So “young women” instead of “young females” would have been more clear and appropriate?

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                  Idk what exactly was op’s intended target, but from his language it’s mostly young females did not accept his friend request, which does not signify a lpwer bound age limit.

                  Edit to be more specific, coz this is dragging out. Young women should not include children. But op’s language does not exclude minors.

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                    That’s my point. If OP wanted to use clearer language “Young Women” would have been better, unless they are in fact creeping on children.

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        because people who use females will say men and females - presumably because referring to them as women humanizes them

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          because people who use females will say men and females

          Do you ignore all the instances they don’t?

          • OP’s writer wrote women & used females to refer to female people (girls or women).
          • The post I linked to shows another use of noun female.
          • Singles communities, personals, classifieds, marketplaces offer abundant instances.
          • The word appears often in book titles & passages, especially feminist literature.

          Seems your claim requires ignoring much regular English usage: it’s false.

          presumably

          That’s presuming an awful lot contrary to regular usage.

          Regardless of motive, the act is the same: indiscriminately picking problems over females. If everyone did that, females would be generally accepted as a dirty, toxic word. Again: what good does that advance?

          It’s thoughtless, self-destructive language policing.

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              No, the writer in OP may not have needed to use males (men & boys). Explain the necessity for males.

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                Wouldn’t that imply then that he’s referring to women AND girls? Because he does explicitly say men in the post.

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                  Females does mean women or girls, and they wrote young. It is logical to write men when boys are absent or not discussed. Again: where’s the necessity for males?

                  The context doesn’t indicate offensive use of females, so picking over that word looks indiscriminate like the critic is stigmatizing the word itself. Again: what good does that advance?

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                    He’s looking for young girls then. I’m not sure that’s such a good thing, nor does it make his use of females any better.

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                    Females does mean women or girls, and they wrote young

                    So OP is asking what’s wrong with young girls that they don’t accept friend requests from strange men, and your asking why people are pointing that out as a problem?

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                The fact that the use one form for one gender and a different form for another gender is exactly the issue.

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                  What’s the logic there that makes it offensive?

                  The comment mixes women & females so it doesn’t appear fixated on a word offensively.

                  When discussing complete sets, it symmetrically places words of a set together: “men, women” and “married, single”.

                  When not discussing complete sets, only the words needed appear: they write “single young female” without “single young male”, because there was no reason to write the latter—it’s not part of the topic. The shift to females happens in a new sentence.

                  Again: explain the necessity for males. Are you expecting everyone to write males for no reason whenever they write females (or the reverse)? Do we need to do the same with married & single? Are you claiming incomplete sets of words or asymmetry is offensive?

                  That shit would be exhausting. Please explain the issue: otherwise, it looks like you’re simply picking over the noun female.

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          Yes, it is. It’s just offensive to refer to a person as such when it’s not in a scientific or formal context.

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            A non-scientific, informal context was given. Show us the offense there.

            Singles communities, personals, classifieds, marketplaces offer abundant instances.

            This is straight-up misguided language policing. Again, what good is served by treating female like a toxic, dirty word?

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          dictionary entry:

          female

          noun

            1. a female person : a woman or a girl
            2. an individual of the sex that is typically capable of bearing young or producing eggs
          1. a pistillate plant