• huppakee@feddit.nl
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    2 days ago

    Well, fuck religion and the hate they all spew.

    It’s not really the religion though, basically all religions come with a set of believes in what is wrong and right and the hate-spewing war criminals will say it has to do with their religion, but they do not follow the believes set out by their religion. They are only using religion as a tool to gain power over the people that do follow the believes of that religion.

    • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works
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      2 days ago

      On the other hand, there have been Jewish states before modern Israel, and it always ended in tears. Maybe believing that you’re God’s chosen people inevitably causes you to act with an arrogance and belief in your own invincibilty that eventually causes your country to be destroyed. If you believe God literally wants you to have a piece of dirt, why practice good diplomacy and have good relations with your neighbors? Your only concern is keeping God happy. In the Old Testament, the Israelites suffered invasion only when they somehow let God down. With that as your cultural foundation, what does that do to your nation’s foreign policy?

      Part of me really is starting to wonder if giving folks who think they’re God’s special chosen people was a terrible mistake.

      • layzerjeyt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        what theocracies of any religion haven’t “ended in tears”?

        Part of me really is starting to wonder if giving folks who think they’re God’s special chosen people was a terrible mistake.

        I think you missed a word or two there.

        I’d suggest the mistake was giving people a country which was already occupied by other people. Whatever myth gets used to justify it, be it god’s chosen people or manifest destiny.

    • ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      2 days ago

      You’re right, of course. The real problem, as you pointed out, is religious states.

      See also: the way the US has become increasingly brazen about its atrocities as the Evangelicals have sunk their tentacles deeper and deeper into our political system.