Klein has attempted to subpoena Discord and Reddit for information that would reveal the identity of moderators of a subreddit critical of him. The moderators' lawyers fear their clients will be physically attacked if the subpoenas go through.
The reddit mods that organized people to call CPS on h3 and wrote and pinned instructions on how to perform copyright infringement on his videos should legitimately be unmasked and included in the lawsuit.
The Reddit lawyers arguing fair use obviously did not see the part where the mods literally urged users to intentionally watch the other channels to not give any views to h3, and the other channels that were features had also declared that the purpose was to steal views and nothing else, which is why it was NOT fair use.
Even if they did do that, which is hard to believe considering how much Ethan lies about everything, how is it even a surprise cps appeared after he was talking about the kids getting a dog poop born disease and shit everywhere on the floor in their house.
Both sides have waaay over-exaggerated it. Ethan said there is shit everywhere while he probably meant that there is just poop on the floor because it is a puppy, and Denimz though there is uncleaned shit everywhere and did the first thing her tiny-ass brain though to do.
This is on Ethan for giving the other side a loaded gun and begging them to shoot him.
As far as I don’t think the CPS call should be suable, the copyright definitely is.
They did do it. Before the snark Reddit was removed, there was a pinned thread urging people to only watch his video from a list of channels that said they’d steal views.
Before that there was a pinned thread urging people to mass report him to CPS.
Puppies poop on the floor. Babies crawl on the floor. Preventing both is difficult. The disease in question is fairly common (and often found in babies who crawl on the floor when there are pets), and even if you clean the floor there is a chance spots are missed.
If the mods truly are innocent, I say let that be decided by a jury.
Edit: the kid in question, by the way, did in fact not have Giardia.
He can’t say what he did and not expect cps to appear.
It doesn’t matter if the kid actually had it after he literally said shit was everywhere on the floor and he thought everyone in the house had it. Especially when saying he had shit everywhere making it sound like it wasn’t getting cleaned up.
Hes simply suing because he’s lashing out at anyone he can. It’s a frivious lawsuit simply to find out anyone he can blame for his failing YouTube show.
When you buy new dogs, you can expect there to be shit everywhere, especially if they get sick, CPS is not something you call knowing the full context. The CPS calls were definitely out of hate, not concern, and the calls themselves aren’t even the issue. The mods urging people to call, however, is targeted harassment.
The lawsuit has a legitimate basis, and if it truly was a frivolous lawsuit, denims et al. would have filed a motion to dismiss, which they didn’t.
Again it’s the point he was yelling everyone in the house had the parasite and shit everywhere. He doesn’t even have proof who called cps, it’s simply him doing a frivious lawsuit.
They are working to have it thrown out
The defendants’ lawyers said the subpoena to unmask moderators should be quashed because Klein can’t prove his case of copyright infringement, but also because revealing such information could put the Does’ in harm’s way. “The balance of equities weighs in favor of Does’ anonymity and quashing TEI’s Subpoenas in their entirety,” the filing said.
Again it’s simply Ethan upset people were criticizing him.
The lawsuit is about the copyright infringement, not the CPS call. The mods organized for users to perform copyright infringement. The CPS calls are just a side thing as a “also, these people are horrible”.
Also, the ones trying to throw it out are the Reddit lawyers, not Demin’s lawyers. Reddit is defending Reddit. Also, there being no proof is a lie. Unless Reddit deleted the data entirely, which would be illegal, there definitely is a deleted thread on Reddit where mods urged people to commit copyright infringement, because I personally saw it.
I’m 100% for encouraging people to use other means to view the content of people who they don’t agree with. It’s absolutely a shit system where you have to contribute to someone’s views and engagement just to be critical of them.
You already can view his content without contributing. Just use an adblocker. But when you encourage others to watch people who steal his content and don’t make fair use content you are instead intentionally causing harm to the creator, which the creator has a right to sue over.
So people can be critical and not contribute. This is about intentional harm and getting caught doing it.
Ya I don’t agree with that. But I also don’t agree with giving a shit if content creators get paid. They contributed to so much of the issues we have today. They can all get fucked. They’re the worst and if the Internet becomes a hostile place to those parasites we’ll all be better off
Demins is the one who after being accused of organizing the campaing, deflected the blame onto the subreddit mods and agreed to let the lawsuit include them.
Legal mindset goes through the court documents in this video explaining how Denims did in fact agree to h3’s request to obtain the mods’ personal identifying information so that they can go after them instead of her.
Oh look here’s him at providing why it’s not actually a case of copyright infringement.
All references or clips that may be used on this channel are for fair use commentary, criticism, and educational purposes. See Hosseinzadeh v. Klein, 276 F.Supp.3d 34 (S.D.N.Y. 2017).
I am not saying she did it. She was accused of doing it, and after that during an early stage in the lawsuit process, she agreed with h3 lawyers to request reddit to disclose information in order to subpoena the reddit mods that did it. Which is what OPs article states Reddit lawyers have pushed back against.
Got to say, I’m not a fan, you seem pretty psychotic.
Although I guess you could be a h3 fan, but that might actually be even more disturbing.
Edit: I’m surprised so many people here are pro-Ethan when his biggest, and most vocal, issues are that Israel isn’t committing genocide, anyone who says they are is a Hamas agent, and that Palestinians are sub-humans.
He’s also an inveterate liar, racist, and has an entire account dedicated to making pedophile jokes on Reddit, about himself being a pedophile.
I haven’t watched h3 since before he started his podcast, so I am not a fan. That doesn’t mean his lawsuit is frivolous. The mods are 100% in the wrong.
The reddit mods that organized people to call CPS on h3 and wrote and pinned instructions on how to perform copyright infringement on his videos should legitimately be unmasked and included in the lawsuit.
The Reddit lawyers arguing fair use obviously did not see the part where the mods literally urged users to intentionally watch the other channels to not give any views to h3, and the other channels that were features had also declared that the purpose was to steal views and nothing else, which is why it was NOT fair use.
Even if they did do that, which is hard to believe considering how much Ethan lies about everything, how is it even a surprise cps appeared after he was talking about the kids getting a dog poop born disease and shit everywhere on the floor in their house.
Man made video talking about how entire house had https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/giardia-infection/symptoms-causes/syc-20372786.
Then ranted about how shit was everywhere in the house because of the dogs. Edit, and one of the kids was continously eating the dog shit
https://www.sportskeeda.com/us/streamers/ethan-klein-denims-cps-controversy-explained
Suddenly blamed his enemies ie random redditors, twitch streamers and YouTubers he had beefs with for cps appearing.
Both sides have waaay over-exaggerated it. Ethan said there is shit everywhere while he probably meant that there is just poop on the floor because it is a puppy, and Denimz though there is uncleaned shit everywhere and did the first thing her tiny-ass brain though to do.
This is on Ethan for giving the other side a loaded gun and begging them to shoot him.
As far as I don’t think the CPS call should be suable, the copyright definitely is.
They did do it. Before the snark Reddit was removed, there was a pinned thread urging people to only watch his video from a list of channels that said they’d steal views.
Before that there was a pinned thread urging people to mass report him to CPS.
Puppies poop on the floor. Babies crawl on the floor. Preventing both is difficult. The disease in question is fairly common (and often found in babies who crawl on the floor when there are pets), and even if you clean the floor there is a chance spots are missed.
If the mods truly are innocent, I say let that be decided by a jury.
Edit: the kid in question, by the way, did in fact not have Giardia.
He can’t say what he did and not expect cps to appear.
It doesn’t matter if the kid actually had it after he literally said shit was everywhere on the floor and he thought everyone in the house had it. Especially when saying he had shit everywhere making it sound like it wasn’t getting cleaned up.
Hes simply suing because he’s lashing out at anyone he can. It’s a frivious lawsuit simply to find out anyone he can blame for his failing YouTube show.
Removed by mod
When you buy new dogs, you can expect there to be shit everywhere, especially if they get sick, CPS is not something you call knowing the full context. The CPS calls were definitely out of hate, not concern, and the calls themselves aren’t even the issue. The mods urging people to call, however, is targeted harassment.
The lawsuit has a legitimate basis, and if it truly was a frivolous lawsuit, denims et al. would have filed a motion to dismiss, which they didn’t.
Again it’s the point he was yelling everyone in the house had the parasite and shit everywhere. He doesn’t even have proof who called cps, it’s simply him doing a frivious lawsuit.
They are working to have it thrown out
Again it’s simply Ethan upset people were criticizing him.
The lawsuit is about the copyright infringement, not the CPS call. The mods organized for users to perform copyright infringement. The CPS calls are just a side thing as a “also, these people are horrible”.
Also, the ones trying to throw it out are the Reddit lawyers, not Demin’s lawyers. Reddit is defending Reddit. Also, there being no proof is a lie. Unless Reddit deleted the data entirely, which would be illegal, there definitely is a deleted thread on Reddit where mods urged people to commit copyright infringement, because I personally saw it.
Which again by his own landmark case isn’t infringement just him trying to take out frustration no one actually cared about his content nuke.
Denims isn’t involved at all in this case or the cps, as admitted when Ethan had to do an apology.
I’m 100% for encouraging people to use other means to view the content of people who they don’t agree with. It’s absolutely a shit system where you have to contribute to someone’s views and engagement just to be critical of them.
You already can view his content without contributing. Just use an adblocker. But when you encourage others to watch people who steal his content and don’t make fair use content you are instead intentionally causing harm to the creator, which the creator has a right to sue over.
So people can be critical and not contribute. This is about intentional harm and getting caught doing it.
Ya I don’t agree with that. But I also don’t agree with giving a shit if content creators get paid. They contributed to so much of the issues we have today. They can all get fucked. They’re the worst and if the Internet becomes a hostile place to those parasites we’ll all be better off
I thought Denims did the CPS call? 🤡
everyone is at fault except for me Ethan
Demins is the one who after being accused of organizing the campaing, deflected the blame onto the subreddit mods and agreed to let the lawsuit include them.
She didn’t do that either.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/us/streamers/ethan-klein-denims-cps-controversy-explained
Legal mindset goes through the court documents in this video explaining how Denims did in fact agree to h3’s request to obtain the mods’ personal identifying information so that they can go after them instead of her.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cwRVscNaCh4
Ah yes the YouTube lawyer is an expert here.
Oh look here’s him at providing why it’s not actually a case of copyright infringement.
She didn’t do that, Ethan just wanted a scapegoat.
I am not saying she did it. She was accused of doing it, and after that during an early stage in the lawsuit process, she agreed with h3 lawyers to request reddit to disclose information in order to subpoena the reddit mods that did it. Which is what OPs article states Reddit lawyers have pushed back against.
Hello Ethan, I didn’t know you were on Lemmy.
Got to say, I’m not a fan, you seem pretty psychotic.
Although I guess you could be a h3 fan, but that might actually be even more disturbing.
Edit: I’m surprised so many people here are pro-Ethan when his biggest, and most vocal, issues are that Israel isn’t committing genocide, anyone who says they are is a Hamas agent, and that Palestinians are sub-humans.
He’s also an inveterate liar, racist, and has an entire account dedicated to making pedophile jokes on Reddit, about himself being a pedophile.
Yeah I also wasn’t expecting Ethan stans here.
I haven’t watched h3 since before he started his podcast, so I am not a fan. That doesn’t mean his lawsuit is frivolous. The mods are 100% in the wrong.
No one goes to bat this hard for someone they don’t support.
Maybe the rest of the people here don’t know about Ethan’s long history of being a vile and detestable human being, but I have a good idea.
And no, I’ll never feel bad for, or side with, the pro-genocidal and open pedophile that is Ethan Klein.
To anyone else reading this, Google anything I’ve said, the receipts are available for everyone to verify.
Zionism is child abuse.
Sounds like a totally reasonable response to fascism.