“Do you have a life? --> No --> Arch Linux”
Lol.
Do you fear technology
Oh yes! Greatly!
Windows
Ah, a different kind of fear was meant…
Apple’s M chips are amazing. If only there was full Linux support for Apple hardware.
According to this Blender benchmark, a M3 Ultra with 80 cores is similar to a 4070 Ti. Too bad a machine with a M3 Ultra with 80 cores will cost several grand while a 4070 Ti can be had for a grand. I appreciate that a SoC can use RAM instead of the scam that is VRAM, but Apple needs to do something about that price, or otherwise, might as well get a 5090.
I don’t think you quite grasp what an M chip is if you are comparing it to a 4070 Ti.
It’s a SoC and is certainly more power efficient, can fit into smaller form factors, etc. It’s definitely progress in the right direction, but is still to expensive to be a practical alternative to higher-end GPUs. What am I missing?
I guess you do understand what the M chip is, which makes your comparison even more surprising. First, comparing a SoC to a GPU is wildly unfair. Second, you are severely underselling exactly how much more energy efficient an M chip is versus a CPU/GPU combo. My PC laptop with an i7 and a 4070 built in will run for about 20 minutes, maybe 30, under a full workload, all the while being hot enough to fry an egg and noisier than a jet engine. Even then, the performance will be trash and get worse as the temps rise. My MBP M3 Max will run a DAW sessions my PC could never dream of, with multiple plugins, on battery, silent, no heat, for a couple of hours without even the hint of a stutter.
All of that said, when it comes to price, Apple’s gonna Apple.
PS: I’m typing this on my phone while the idle i7/4070 laptop is fanning (again, fully idle) because it runs so hot. I might need to start traveling for work again and, if I do, I might need to switch to a MacBook Air for work on the road unless I can find an ultra-slim, powerful yet efficient, high resolution screen, Linux supported laptop. Simply because of the chip. We need an equivalent on the PC side.
Yeah, looking forward to the day when SoCs fully replace discrete GPUs for all the reasons you stated, and also when there are better options than Apple devices in that space. Pretty sure there have never been many render farms built from Apple hardware, though, and Mac Pros have never been the most cost effective option for applications requiring a lot of compute. MacBooks and phones, on the other hand, are more of a sweet spot, and the M chips have done wonders there to your point.
If only Linux devs weren’t so toxic against rust that it drove out talent that was working on Asahi Linux for these devices :V
The talent has nothing to do with Rust AFAIK. Only the GPU driver is written in Rust. There are however efforts put into other drivers written in Rust.
The developers could have written those drivers in C instead, or to hell with those close-minded Linux developers, fork Linux and keep writing in Rust.
That’s certainly a way of looking at it.
The talent was upset at a conflict between kernel maintainers and posted a personal attack on Mastodon. The comment is now deleted ( https://web.archive.org/web/20250204004048/https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/113941358237899362 ).
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Even if he is correct about about it being a code of conduct violation (it wasn’t), there is way to take action and it isn’t posting an attack on social media.
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There has certainly been drama around Rust, but as was said in the thread: “Being toxic on the right side of an argument is still toxic, […]”
Long term everything they make is for the landfill. Soldered RAM and SSDs on most M-series made it clear Apple doesnt expect the devices to last very long.
A 5-7 year lifespan is enough if your customers generally upgrade every 2-4 years.
I don’t mind macOS. Micheal Bazzel recommends it and it runs in unix which is basically closed sourced linux
I believe in using the best tool for the job. For that reason, I use Macs for all my music stuff, Windows if I have to, and Linux for everything else.
me too! mac also works great for video production.
Arguably the first branch is backwards. I don’t use windows because I fear technology and strongly distrust Microsoft.
I would replace the Ubuntu logo with a Debian swirl in the third meme.
Can I run my whole steam library on linux? And also get the same performance from AAA games? If so, I’m sold.
Can I run my whole steam library on linux?
Depends on the games you have. The biggest issue is anti-cheat, so competitive online games have a worse chance of working, nearly all other games should work though.
And also get the same performance from AAA games?
Again depends on the specific games. Some have worse performance than on Windows, some have better performance.
If you want to check specific games you can use ProtonDB to find out how well they run/any specific tweaks to get them working.
99% of the steam library. Only thing I can think of right now is battlefield 6 has anti cheat that wont work. And apex. Basically the developers have to be jerks for it not to work so no reason to pay em anyways.
Fortnite too, last I checked. Because they specifically disabled Linux compatibility in their anti-cheat
Is fortnite on steam though?
Good info either way, just not sure whether its relevant
It’s not.
And the owner of Epic, which owns Fortnite, is rabidly anti Linux. I believe he’s made some concessions to lose less of the Deck market share, but he’s made many insulting and untrue statements of Linux and its users in the past as well as actively sabotaging Linux functionality in games that used to have it.
From what i’ve heard the only downside is kernel-level anti-cheat.
Pretty much. But if you need to test it, you can buy another drive and install linux and your games there. If it doesn’t work, you can use the extra drive for something else.
In Steam on Linux, use settings to enable Experimental or Proton for Windows games.
Edit: This is computer science, you must report your findings!
I’m convinced Arch with archinstall is the easiest Linux to use for users competent with computers. It just requires that the user isn’t afraid of command line interfaces.
I’ve tried the Mint, Ubuntu and uBlue. Had something go wrong with each. Mint didn’t install graphics drivers, Ubuntu had nonsensical design with snap and uBlue corrupted the boot order after a month.
With distros designed to just work it isn’t easy to fix issues when they come up. With Arch there’s no expectation that things work by default, so when something goes wrong you can just make it work again.
I have the same experience with Arch. It just works. When it doesn’t, you forgot to read https://archlinux.org/news/ before sudo pacman -Syu
The choice tree is true, though. In high school, I used Arch Linux on my PC because I liked tinkering. Now that I’m in college, I’m using Fedora because I need something stable and don’t have time to mess with it.
