Gaza will be a ‘beautiful piece of property’, says Donald Trump as images unveiled at the signing of the president’s ‘board of peace’ in Davos

  • LumiNocta@lemmy.zip
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    5 days ago

    How is this relevant, he’s not in office. Trump is not less of a corrupt fraud because of someone else.

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      5 days ago

      It’s relevant because people on this website are desperate to pretend Democrats are in any way redeemable, a notion which should be cut down at every opportunity.

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          3 days ago

          No, I know Blue MAGA struggles with facts, but this is very basic, elementary-school level math: Trump would’ve won even if Holocaust Harris got every single third party vote. Your party’s refusal to accommodate left-wing populism as represented by Bernie Sanders got us Trump 2.0 because the DNC instead ran an unwinnable candidate who sounded like a drunk aunt at all times and got predictably steamrolled by right-wing populism, the only form of populism permitted by the oligarchs who own both parties.

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            I’m not arguing that Harris was a great candidate, but that inducing voter apathy is a republican strategy. Republican voters are pretty consistent which is why higher turnout = democrat victory more likely.

            Not sure why you’re calling it my party, I voted for social democrats in the last local election. I’m not American.

            The “both parties are the same” line is a tried and true republican strategy to win elections.

            That’s why I always say the American left should focus on real change between presidential elections, but shut the fuck up when the candidate has been announced. The right gets it. Did you hear a single conservative voice criticise Trump after he was nominated? I didn’t. Even though before he was nominated the first time, many did.

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              The “both parties are the same” line is a tried and true republican strategy to win elections.

              Maybe the Democrats should stop proving that they’re right then.

              That’s why I always say the American left should focus on real change between presidential elections, but shut the fuck up when the candidate has been announced.

              If you think Democrats are “left”, you should probably learn a lot more about American politics before speaking on it.

              The DNC is where leftist / progressive movements go to die. Leftists don’t want unity with Democrats. Democrats are capitalist, Zionist dogs whose vision of the world is fundamentally contradictory to socialism, communism, anarchy, or whatever your preferred flavor of revolutionary thought is.

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                Democrats ARE the American left. Point me to a party that has the voter numbers to win elections over both then and the republicans. There is none. Most people don’t want a communist revolution because they don’t want the inevitable dictatorship that’s part of it. It’s kinda like the current dictatorship, but there’s even less you can do about it.

                You ain’t effecting change by running interference in a first past the post system. All you’re doing is getting Trump elected. All the ICE victim blood is on the hands of not just those who voted for Trump, but also those who didn’t vote at all.

                The party itself needs to be changed from within. You can’t just tell people to stay home or vote third party because that’s how you get the cheeto that wants to cancel elections.

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        5 days ago

        Nu-uh you are comparing two very different situations as if what Biden did or intended is even close to what trump is doing.