Chinese propaganda is rampant on the fediverse. We need to discuss ways to combat this. One group- memes or something is wholly controlled by Chinese state actors. What do you think?

    • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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      1 day ago

      whataboutism is a thought-terminating cliche.

      it ends up a very effective way of shutting down comparison between them.

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        1 day ago

        The whole point is that there is no comparison necessary. It’s nothing but a deflection.

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          the comparison is very necessary when the problems and contradictions in the countries being smeared pale in comparison.

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            20 hours ago

            No it is not. If that’s the case, nothing matters except the worst of the worst. Everything can be excused by “yeah but that other guy is worse so it’s okay”. It’s preposterous.

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              6 hours ago

              yes it is, because it’s not china holding the world hostage with their trillion dollar military. they are qualitatively different.

              saying tens of millions or deaths worldwide (probably much more) and even more kept in poverty is in equal standing with getting into war with your neighbor for a few months 50 years ago is a wild exaggeration that serves to both sides an issue that has one prominent cause for a century or so rn. we have had enough of it.

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                5 hours ago

                it’s not china holding the world hostage

                I’m not going to play this game with you. The US being shit doesn’t excuse China from being shit. Or vise versa. Simple as.

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                  4 hours ago

                  but they aren’t. you still speak as if they are two big bad villains willing to nuke the planet.

                  only one of them is and equating them is dishonest at best to someone subject to the empire and very deflective.

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              13 hours ago

              I mean the PRC and the USA arent Nazi Germany. So they are basically perfect. /s

              Moral critic is kind of above geopolitical branding wars imho