• aeharding@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    without relying on your servers admins to do it

    But I want to rely on my server admins for that. To me that’s a feature, not a bug.

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      8 months ago

      We had a thing a while back on Lemmy where a bunch of semi-popular instances (including lemmy.world, though they seem to have rolled that back) all defederated from instances that mentioned piracy. I don’t have a problem with piracy. I want to talk about piracy.

      If Lemmy ran on a system like Bluesky’s, I wouldn’t have needed to consider making a new account on another instance just because me and the admins disagree on what we want to see on Lemmy.

      I get your point, I just think It’s a matter of preference, at the end of the day.

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        8 months ago

        We had a thing a while back on Lemmy where a bunch of semi-popular instances (including lemmy.world, though they seem to have rolled that back) all defederated from instances that mentioned piracy. I don’t have a problem with piracy. I want to talk about piracy.

        To me, that is a feature, too. The admin team made a decision, and the community engaged, the topic was discussed, and the decision was changed. To me that’s a very healthy process. The only thing I would’ve changed would be LW engaging the community before defederating, but they were understandably worried about legal implications.

        Even if LW didn’t reverse this decision, you can change instances. Lemmy 0.19 makes this easier with import/export, but I would argue it should be even easier. Ultimately though this is a lemmy implementation detail, and not an activitypub problem.

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          Your ignoring the thrust of their point:

          If you disagree with your instance or want to leave it for whatever reason, you have to wipe your identity and create a new one.

          That is in no way a feature, just a hindrance.

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              Lemmy doesn’t, since it’s not part of the protocol, and in both situations you still lose your actual id.

              In general, there’s technical reasons why ids and instances are associated on Lemmy / Mastodon, but not UX reasons.

              99% of users just want a username, i.e. @bigCommieMouth, they don’t necessarily want their identity tied together with the server they use to interact with the network, i.e. @bigCommieMouth@kolektiva.social, and if they did really love a specific server and wanted their identity tied to it, they could always just make @bigCommieMouth_kolektiva_social.

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                >there’s technical reasons why ids and instances are associated on Lemmy / Mastodon, but not UX reasons.

                …right…

                >99% of users just want a username,

                literally 100% of users have used this system regardless of the fact that identities are tied to services.

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                  So? 100% of users never used the fediverse before it existed. Bluesky / ATProtocol is now offering an alternative where usernames are not tied to instances, and that sounds like a better UX.