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  • I feel like you missed the point.

    Webengines are not more complex than a full OS, and yet, Linux works as a community driven project and Chromium does not.

    The difference is that Linus is the one with final say in Linux, and he never sold out to a company. Chromium is Google.

    It will never be a “community” project, because Google pumps so many resources into it. The goal is obvious: to make sure that it’s always ahead of any competitors, and anyone willing to catch up would have to match Google spending.

    The brilliant move here by Google was making it open source. This ensures that no other megacorp needs to fight them, as long as their interests are aligned.

    Edge has died already. Safari will follow. The future is grim.




  • and what is their endgame? “Developers are releasing cheats that emualate a mouse. Therefore Riot needs to use a camera to record your hand”?

    You mean a device that physically operates the mouse? I don’t know, I don’t work for riot, but this is done in online chess - to participate in some tournaments with money prizes you need 2 webcams.

    If everybody is jumping off a roof, so should Riot?

    No, the question is if this discussion also cover all other anticheats that use kernel mode, or is here anything that is League-specific?

    Isn’t the whole point of anti-cheat to survey the computer? If you aren’t getting anything new, then why even use a kernel-level anticheat?

    This is just splitting hairs on semantics, isn’t it? From the moment the app is running in user space, it could collect a huge amount of user info, but it can’t look for kernel-level cheat software.

    Note that I don’t play league, I could care less about the game or the developer, I’m just interested in the privacy vs cheating aspect of the conversation.




  • By the replies, I almost assumed this was 4-chan. It’s either some bold bravado, or generic out of touch shaming people foe allowing kernel level access.

    There are interesting conversations to be had around this topic. For example, Riot in the article rises the following points, can we address those?

    Cheat software developers are already releasing cheats that operate at this level. If Riot wants to combat them, it has to do so at the kernel level.

    Lots of other companies are already using similar software to prevent cheating.

    “This isn’t giving us any surveillance capability we didn’t already have.” Claiming that if they wanted to steal data, their example being a secret recipe, then they could already do so in user mode.