After seeing a team of fedi software developers drop their Matrix bridge to their Discord after the total lack of moderation tooling resulted in an extremely transphobic spam wave, I for one am not surprised.
Another team I’m aware of also dropped Matrix for other reasons, but went for Zulip instead, which is also open, but more collaboration oriented a la Slack rather than community oriented like Discord, which probably would not fit what the group in the OP is looking for.
Lemmy’s cross posts are separate posts that just happen to link to the same thing. so only replies to the original post would be sent with the current design.
that said, i severely doubt Lemmy will gain anything from this. publishers will not be sending out their posts to any communities, and i highly doubt they will expose any fep-1b12 group actors you can subscribe as a community.
kbin/mbin with it’s ability to follow users may work better, assuming people test their federation with software other than mastodon, and accept any of the interoperability bugs as actual bugs instead of ignoring them. (lemmy itself is no stranger to this: the fact that users and communities can share the same username break quite a bit)
tbf Lemmy’s behavior is documented and standardized (https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/1b12/fep-1b12.md) it’s just that their fallback code for instances that don’t federate the Lemmy way also boosts the target posts for each update as opposed to just once on creation like you’d expect
how many times did you edit that post per chance? Lemmy seems to boost edited posts for some odd reason
see https://brain.d.on-t.work/notes/9md8phwlkzlj0xe9 and https://brain.d.on-t.work/notes/9m1y542jlg8002bj for it happening on my misskey instance hacked together to support Lemmy federation
(talking about microblog fedi here, Lemmy/threadiverse is it’s own thing)
don’t do hashtags. hashtags (especially common ones like #memes) are overrun by repost bots and low quality garbage.
the trick is to be on a small-to-medium instance you vibe with (1k active users seems to be the sweet spot. anything larger than 2k I’d avoid. do NOT join any flagship instances like mastodon.social), follow fun people from your local timeline, and see who they boost. and follow up the boost chain until your timeline is sufficiently fun.
FYI misskey does not implement the masto api. some software like pleroma/akkoma, gotosocial and yes, a few misskey forks do (in various states of brokenness, with iceshrimp being the most compliant one) but misskey itself does not.
I think fedibird is a hard fork, so I guess it makes sense to count it separately compared to a soft fork like glitch or chuckya
I’m more surprised why there aren’t any misskey instances on the list. if fedibird is on there misskey should certainly be there
ah, gotcha. this instance is still on 0.18 so that’s why my tests didn’t work out. I’ll edit that part out
you can disable the webpage and unauthorized API if you so choose. mastodon and pleroma/akkoma provide these settings. gotosocial hides all posts with an unlisted visibility from public pages.
authorized fetch only provides protection for activitypub, it’s just a single component of a layered stack of protection you can enable depending on your exact threat model.
the privacy threat model of Lemmy is significantly different from a microblog, which is the current target of threads.
(also have none of you heard of consent?)
cc @FaceDeer@kbin.social this reply also applies to your reply
no, not really.
i have attempted to build my own federated stuff (none of them actually federated “in real life” though) so i did read the specs but quite a lot of these are from my memory and if there’s anything i know is that my memory fuckin sucks lol
Which could still be millions?
sharedInbox handles this.
mastodon.social sends a single federation activity to www.threads.net’s sharedInbox. threads’s internal systems handle all the visibility and routing to followed users and whatnot. the same thing happens in the opposite direction for threads->mastodon (or whoever).
now in theory this is an optional part of the specification and you can in fact send one activity per person if you really want to, but considering how widespread it is (and how relatively easy it is to implement) you’d have to be intentionally and explicitly malicious to not use a sharedInbox if the remote server indicates it supports it.
just want to clarify something:
However, the way that activitypub works, the outgoing data is publicly available. Defederating with Meta doesn’t prevent that,
there is a technical solution to this in the form of authorized fetch: https://hub.sunny.garden/2023/06/28/what-does-authorized_fetch-actually-do/
mastodon implements it, pleroma/akkoma probably implements it, pixelfed implements it, firefish and iceshrimp implement it (sharkey has a PR implementing it opened just today), gotosocial not only implements it but enforces it, with no ability to turn it off
notably, none of the threadiverse software implement it, and no software other than the aforementioned gotosocial enable it by default.
they will have an excuse to do it openly instead of trying to do it secretly and inevitably getting caught
how will this deal with communities and instances having different rules and “culture” of their own?
oh, and which community’s moderators are going to have permission to moderate the comments section?
I have not seen a clear answer to either of these questions on any variation of this proposal. do y’all see every community as the same thing with a different domain at the end?
there was a fdroid client that did something similar using mastodon and hashtags but I can’t remember which one it was and if it’s still doing that
so, are you paying for it?
I’m mildly worried I know (as in, am aware of their existence, thankfully not having interacted with them) who you’re talking about
i can see why you may not want this but have you potentially considered rehosting/attaching any images from image posts in the bot’s replies? as lemmy doesn’t federate those properly just yet (https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/4035/commits/ecd8e3b11b5292bad73d48c2fbf11db00bc432c2 will fix it for posts originating in lemmy AFAIK) it’d make the bot quite a lot more useful and things like memes do tend to get boosted a lot more widely than links, though i can definitely see why it may feel a bit like freebooting (so, it could perhaps be a per-community option for non-OC-heavy communities?)
small correction: the post that displays the instance you’re on (https://void.rehab/notes/9umvfd1lgoulvm0j) won’t work with “'regular” iceshrimp. it depends on an extra patch added to the version on void.rehab to function.