There is no way to get acceptable IOPS out of HDDs within Proxmox. Your IO delay will be insane. You could at best stripe a ton of HDDs but even then one enterprise grade SSD will smoke it as far as performance goes. Post screenshots of your current Proxmox HDD/SSD disk setup with your ZFS pool, services, and IO delay and then we can talk. The difference that enterprise gives you is night and day.
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Yes you don’t need Proxmox for what you’re doing.
ZFS absolutely does not require them in any way.
Who said it does? Also regarding Proxmox:
https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/consumer-grade-ssds.141190/post-632197
Looking back at your original post, why are you using Proxmox to begin with for NAS storage??
For ZFS what you want is PLP and high DWPD/TBW. This is what Enterprise SSDs provide. Everything you’ve mentioned so far points to you not needing ZFS so there’s nothing to worry about.
Yes I’m specifically referring to your ZFS pool containing your VMs/LXCs. Enterprise SSDs for that. Get them on ebay. Just do a search on the Proxmox forums for enterprise vs consumer SSD to see the problem with consumer hardware for ZFS. For Proxmox itself you want something like an NVME with DRAM, specifically underprovisioned for an unused space buffer for the drive controller to use for wear leveling.
ZFS is great, but to take advantage of it’s positives you need the right drives, consumer drives get eaten alive as @scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech mentioned and your IO delay will be unbearable. I use Intel enterprise SSDs and have no issues.
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Selfhosted@lemmy.world•[Question] Migrating and Upgrading Proxmox to New SSDs on Poweredge SafelyEnglish
5·2 years agoI would say that is not the best way to keep/restore backups as you are missing the integrity checking features of a true backup system. But honestly what really matters is how important the data is to you.
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Selfhosted@lemmy.world•[Question] Migrating and Upgrading Proxmox to New SSDs on Poweredge SafelyEnglish
2·2 years agoI did something similar when migrating to 8. Consumer SSDs suck with proxmox so I bought 2 enterprise SSDs on Ebay before the migration and decided to do everything at once. I didn’t have all the moving parts you did though. If you have an issue, you will more than likely not be able to pop back in the old SSDs and expect everything to work as normal. I’m not sure what you’re using to create backups but if you’re not already I would recommend PBS. This way if there is an issue, restoring your VMs is trivial. As long as that PBS is up and running correctly (makes sure to restore a backup before making any changes to make sure it works as intended) it should be ok. I have 2 PBS’s. One on and off site.
PBS will keep the correct IPs of your VMs so reconnecting NFS shares shouldn’t be an issue either.
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Linux@lemmy.ml•What distro do you use for your servers?English
2·2 years agoUsed to be CentOS until the stream debacle. Now Debian.









I was asking them to post their setup so I can evaluate their experience with regards to Proxmox and disk usage.