rutellthesinful

what scenario are you imagining where any of meta’s product offerings are useful to me?

tfw your national strategic reserve of facebook posts is depleted

even if you’re in a situation where it’s somehow possible to manually draw 1/3 of a mm to any accuracy, 1/3 scale draft rulers still exist for metric, so it’s equivalent

I seem to remember you as the one who brought up calculators

because as soon as you have access to a calculator, “off the top of your head” is an irrelevance

well yeah, because 1/8" is 3.175mm

1/3 of a mm is a distance between 1/64" and 1/128"

mechanical pencil lead is only about 0.4mm

I still don’t see how a calculator helps though.

don’t ask me ask the person who posed the “what’s a third of 9.5mm” question

using a ruler to measure a length of 1/8" is as accurate as using a ruler to measure a length of 31mm and eyeballing 2/3 of a mm

the bottleneck at that point is your eyeball and pencil lead, not the unit of measurement

the one third of 9.5 conundrum, which was posed by a metric defender

they weren’t a metric defender

which is literally not true

what scenario is there in your mind where you’d need a precision answer to what 1/3 of 9.5mm is, but also not have access to a calculator? and of those scenarios, how many of them would be solved by the knowledge that 1/3 of 1/8 is 1/24? i’m willing to bet the answer is more or less “none”.

and for those that do exist, you can also get drafting rulers that give you 1/3rds of metric measurements.

the accuracy of your equipment isn’t somehow better because you’re dealing with fractions rather than decimal points

i don’t really like replying to such a long comment with such a short one, but i feel like i need to remind you that the thing that started this chain was

Quick off the top of your head, what’s a third of 9.5mm?

reaching for a string in that situation would be puzzling to me

18ths would need two divisions by three, but thankfully dividing a known measured length by three is easy with a piece of string.

what kind of cartoon fantasyland do you live in where it’s easier to find a piece of string than it is a calculator?

also, all of this is assuming you have your drafting ruler to hand

do you carry it around with you in your pocket on a day-to-day basis? some deep fucking pockets you’ve got there, although I suppose you already that to the 1/24th inch

They can be measured, calculated and double checked

my guy, we’re talking about accuracies of millimeters here: you’re not “double checking” your 12" ruler is accurate by slapping your bare carpet gripper up on the drafting table

we no longer live in the pre-industrial age

thinking that knowing that 1/3 * 1/8 = 1/24 is something that anybody wouldn’t know is stupid

the point is the impracticality of the result being essentially equivalent to 95/3

so in other words you’re helpless in that situation?

we can play the same game with 1/18th or whatever if you want

okay then my answer to the hypothetical is 9.5/3, which is every bit as easy to find on any measurement device, or to use for any practical purpose, as 1/24th

what’s a 1/3 of 1/8th of an inch?

but what kind of protest is “I’ll have no choice but to sell the ape”?

like even if your “threat” is losing you as a member of the community, you’re still selling it to somebody else who will just take your place

you’re confusing AGI/GI with AI

video game AI is AI

companies don’t update legal documents for fun

you’re also continuing to pointedly ignore what this conversation is actually about, so i’m guessing you don’t really have anything relevant to say in response

CYA is not necessarily the same as changing the substance

why would they need to cover themselves against the scenario you’re arguing they were already covering themselves against?

that could’ve been imagined when writing the original TOSs

or when agreeing to them, which is literally the problem here

you can’t meaningfully consent to every arbitrary hypothetical future scenario

you agreed to that too

you know that a company putting a thing in their terms of service doesn’t make it legally binding, right?

hence why they all suddenly felt the need to update their terms of services

It is not very obviously different, as evidenced by the fact that it’s still being argued

people continuing to use a bad argument doesn’t make it a good one

I’m not expecting them to rule against analysis of public data

tell me you haven’t followed anything about this conversation without telling me you haven’t followed anything about this conversation

the update to the legal contract they have you agree to was in no way legally motivated?

You mean before or after all the sites updated their ToS it so that they were legally in the clear to sell user posts to AI training companies? Implying that they weren’t before? Also, are we exclusively talking about cases where sites gave consent to provide data? Rather than just having it be harvested without their knowledge or consent?

And in any case, you’re missing the key point, which is that legality doesn’t matter in either case. You can’t fight a megacorporation just doing whatever they please unless you happen to have an army of lawyers lying around. Most consumers don’t.

I suspect that people wouldn’t like it if copyright got extended to let IP owners prohibit you from learning from their stuff.

Learning from things is a very obviously a completely different process to feeding data into a server farm.

Quite why proponents of AI-generated media still think this argument holds any water after 2 minutes of thought, let alone after almost a full year to consider it, is beyond me.

in this case, microsoft just decided that they didn’t have to bother supporting legacy accounts because they didn’t feel like it, so they pulled them without consent or compensation

in the case of ai generated media, companies just decided that they just had the rights to use existing published media, so they harvested it without consent or compensation

both complaints are the same complaint: that businesses are just deciding on contracts unilaterally and then imposing them on people without the need for consent