Beemo Dinosaurierfuß

I get it.

I sometimes put AAA games on my wishlist anyway.
Not to buy them on release but to get alerted when they go on discount at some point down the line, which is generally how I use my wishlist mostly.

I have some unreleased indie games on there as well, but those I might just buy full price anyway whenever I feel like it or have a little extra free time to play a bit more at a time.

You comment and comment and explain and explain shit that everyone already knows.

It is like you just recently learned what marketing is and now you feel like you know some big secret.

Just to make it short.
Every product in the world is marketed in a way to motivate consumers to buy.
That is not inherently immoral.

You said every successful game monetizes by maximizing addiction and frustration.

I have proven you wrong by naming games that just DO NOT MAXIMIZE FRUSTRATION.

Yeah off course even those games dangle stuff in front of you that you are supposed to buy.
That’s the whole business model of f2p games.

But there are different ways to get to the players money.

There are those that indeed trigger responses to frustration.
This is absolutely prevalent in mobile games or even those million deckbuilder games.

But there just are also games that use other ways to make players buy mtx.
Again, you can play PoE, LoL, CS and many other games for literal thousands of hours without ever getting coaxed into frustrating barriers like a Diablo Immortals would do to players.

You said there aren’t. So you were wrong.

So have fun running around with a goalpost in your hand, I am done.

right?

No, still wrong.

Obviously it is something that is not given to you for free.
It is a product and the developers/publishers are doing business after all.

And yes Sherlock, it is qol functionality that people playing the endgame might want and that is not included in the free version of the game.
But every functionality that any player ever needs is available for far less than what any other AAA title costs up front.

PoE is mainly financed by purely cosmetic supporter packs and whales.
Is that much more ethical than what you described? Maybe not.

But it sure as hell is not banking on frustrating the average user and thus a completely different form of monetization than the one that you just doubled down on insisting is the only one there is.
So again as I said, you are just plain wrong.

Oh and in CS I don’t think you can buy any functionality at all.
Only cosmetics, that don’t do anything for you in the game.

Any successful example is optimized for addiction and frustration.

That is just plain wrong.
Addiction I guess but frustration definitely not necessarily.
There are countless examples of highly successful games that do not monetize like that.

You can happily play PoE for thousands of hours without paying a penny; if you want to get into trading drop like 20 bucks for some stash tabs and you are ready to go again for absolutely any content the game has to offer.

CS or LoL also work just fine for f2p players.

And I say that as a player that fucking hates the new generation of soulless live service games.

I know it’s trendy to shit on Germany rn (and Isreal obviously and for good reason), but 90 year old holocaust survivors surely aren’t the ones commiting genocide.
And they very well might have had to relive a trauma that Germany rightfully feels a responsibility for.

So what is the problem with giving those old folks that really had to endure some of the worst things anyone ever had to endure a symbolic sum to show them that they are not forgotten?

This is in no way defending Germanys support of Israel, while it is committing cruel war crimes.
But let’s be real here, is this gesture really that outrageous to you?

Those Larian Studios people seem pretty nice from what one can hear.

Lovecraftian art is inspired by the tone and the mystery of Lovecrafts works and not by his racism.

But that aside I didn’t downvote you for your first sentence.
I personally wouldn’t even have downvoted you for your second sentence, even though I strongly disagree with it.

I downvoted you for your edit, which ironically is totally tone deaf.
Noone downvoted the fact, that you called the dude some stuff. You got downvoted for attacking Valve over an innocent sale of supernatural mystery games.

Having read some of his works, it sometimes is scarring to read how he pictures arabic or black peope.

He definitely let his personal racism seep into his stories.
So I think the argument can be made, that one shouldn’t just consume his works without critically reflecting on the author.

There is one story set in Egypt that I remember, where the open racism kept on breaking my immersion repeatedly.

But I agree that calling Valve tone deaf for highlighting lovecraftian games misses the spot.
Lovecraftian art is inspired by the tone and the mystery of Lovecrafts works and not of his racism.

I am willing to bet that you are simply more used to the imperial system.

I am not convinced that it has any objective advantage over the metric system.

My foot is about 50% larger than my SO’s, but I can perfectly invision 30cm whenever I want or need to.

Totally different genre, but I liked how Celeste approached this.

If you struggle to complete it there are tons of accessibility options to make the game more approachable.

And the content necessary to finish the games story is not too much, while giving challenging -well- challenges to anyone who wants to spend more time with the game.

And you clear the game screen by screen making it possible to only play it a short bit at a time.

It’s almost a bonus that the story and soundtrack are fucking beautiful.

Financial success.

I mean he defrauded rich people.

Off course he gets the book.

What?

That asshole doesn’t deserve a meme, cmm.

Just use Calvin.

It is possible he doesn’t like the texture of mushrooms.

If I am somewhere and am served squeaky mushroom sponges I don’t like them either.

I didn’t want to reply at all because it is starting to get ridiculous and noone else keeps reading this.

But please just for the sake of being honest, show me where I am intolerant or hateful?
I replied to other comments in this thread as well, there should be plenty to pick from.

Show me my intolerance, show me my hate.

I even make it easier for you.

I think religion is a cancer to society.
I think all religions are basically cults.

Make a straightforward argument how my statements are either hateful or intolerant.

Because while those statements are my honest opinion, I am still strongly in favour of freedom of religion.
I would never forbid anyone from practicing their religion as long as they don’t infringe on someone else’s rights in doing so.
I don’t hate anyone for being religious. There are wonderful religious people.

Still I think they are wonderful despite their religion, not because of it.

I don’t even hate you, despite your ongoing insults towards me.
I just think you are very wrong on a fundamental level and haven’t yet learned to deal with being told so.

Reported.

I think you understand neither what a skepticist is, nor how religion or free churches work.

Well you’re wrong in both, but I am curious why you would think that.

And by your logic I assume you have to be an anarchist,

Hilariously wrong here.

since every government that ever existed - or society for that matter - has exercised some form of suppression.

Care to explain what that has to do with anything I said in this thread?

I think your overgeneralizing, intollerant way of thinking is sickening and hardly better than that of a racist or sexist.

And I think you resort to personal insults because you have no valid arguments against my positions.
But please humor me and tell me how I am intolerant in an comparable way to a racist or sexist.

And please don’t tell me what my beliefs are. That’s pretty church-y of you.

I’m a pansexual protestant Christian

Are you kidding me? You told about your beliefs yourself.

And it’s especially rich after your whole post made assumptions about me.

The sheer arrogance to post a philosophical minority opinion paired with an insult and then end it with a sigh.

And while I am not particularly familiar with Mr. Antony’s work I can tell you that he either didn’t understand or purposefully misused Hitchen’s Razor insofar as you indeed can not apply it to Atheism the same way you can apply it to christianity.
The reason for that being that there is no particular thing at all you have to believe to be an atheist.
Atheism in and of itself doesn’t assert anything at all.
So there is nothing that could be dismissed.

Atheism says there is no reason to believe in god.
How does Hitchen’s Razor dismiss that? It doesn’t.

Not to mention your quote still is no argument towards the positive existence of god.

And if you don’t show me how I am supposed to be intolerant, I will take it as the baseless insult that it is and will no longer discuss with you.

We’re using fancy words now to seem smart?
Works better if you know what they mean.

And I don’t have any problem believing that vast majorities of a population can fall to a cult.
I mean in the middle ages people didn’t even have a choice about their religion and I hope you are not trying to tell me crusades and literal witch hunts are not cult behaviour.