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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 year ago

If the USA saw what the USA is doing in the USA...

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 year ago
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    True but without the US, western Europe would belong to Russia or China… That arguably a lot worse.

    It’s the lesser of all evils.

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      Why would China “own” Western Europe. This sounds like a very vibes based analysis

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        The vibes: pit

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      How many countries has China invaded?

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        This will probably devolve into the usual tropes. It’s dangerous to go alone! Take this.

        • https://lemmy.ml/comment/9325173
        • https://lemmy.ml/comment/8392727
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        They would if they could. Imagine China having a powerful air force like the US have. They would dominate every country in the world just like the US is doing. The US puts almost all their money into high tech weaponry as well.

        The US is going after the middle east to get oil and to establish military bases for future domination. Has nothing to do with liberation or democracy.

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          “imagine if China invaded the whole world. China doesn’t sound so good now, does it?”

          Brilliant

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            Do you have any actual arguments? So far you are not really contributing to the discussion at all.

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              Argument: your US chauvinism is unjustified and you should probably justify it. Otherwise, you’re wasting everyone’s time with an undeserved smug attitude

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        Do you want current regime or it’s history? Because… Lol if you think that number is 0 for either.

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          Please, do tell. Current government. If you say Tibet I will die of laughter and then link you a very well-sourced and easy to read academic paper.

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            Would you mind linking that paper so that i can read it?

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              Happy to, it’s a banger if you’re not familiar

              https://redsails.org/friendly-feudalism/

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          I would like to hear your true facts about the current regime

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            [this space reserved for unfalsifiable anti communist orthodoxy]

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              parenti-hands

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        How can China be of its current size without invading anyone? When it started, it was just a small patch in central Henan area.

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          This pedantry is ridiculous, wrong, and annoying. The Han ethnic group that was in a relatively small patch of land ~4,000 years ago is hardly the same thing as the contemporary Westphalian sovereign state known as People’s Republic of China, which formed less than a hundred years ago and comprises many ethnicities.

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            The people of China would not agree with your assertion that China is less than one hundred years old.

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              I think they would find your pedantry annoying as well.

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                I’m okay with that.

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      Sure I work all my life to pay rent and the cops can murder me at any time for no reason and get away with it, but have you considered China worse somehow?

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        Yeah China seems worse to me.

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        • Flyberius [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          You should go there. It would change your mind in an instant.

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            I would just be a tourist. I would of course like the people. People all over the world are quite nice. It’s the governments that are not…

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              China has a democratic government with far more oversight and participation from their citizens than the US

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          Based on what? Your hypothetical yellow peril bullshit where they would be worse if they could

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      first-time

      • List of Atrocities committed by US authorities
      • A Detailed Chronological List of US Interventions, Invasions, Destabilzations, and Assistance to Oppressive Regimes (ending in 2002)
      • The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It
      • Shock therapy (economics)
      • Are We The Baddies?
      • The blueprint of regime change operations How regime change happens in the 21st century with your consent
      • Michael Parenti: Africa is Rich
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        Are We The Baddies?

        Michael Parenti: Africa is Rich

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      username checks out. The US is not the lesser evil. Its the greatest evil in the world. If Satan were at war with the US, i would support Satan because the US is the Greater Satan. amerikkka

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        Disagree on that they are the most evil, but yes they are also evil. China, Russia, US… They are all evil. But the US seems like the lesser evil to me.

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          I’m the lesser evil! pit

          just get in the pit barbara-pit

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      👆 how to say you’re a racist without saying you’re a racist

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        What part of shining city on a hill do no not get, Canuck?

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          one of the most successful propaganda campaigns in history

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          shining city on a hill

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        I’m a racist because I don’t want China to control the western world the way the US is controlling it? :)

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          Thinking the US controlling things is good actually is fuckin cringe lol

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            What’s cringe is your comments here… You just contribute nothing to the discussion.

            Why isn’t it good that the US is controlling things? And why do you think it’s better if China would?

            That’s how you have a real discussion.

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              I don’t owe you a discussion

              I’m not some debate pervert

              Make your discussion worth my time

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            Skin color is completely irrelevant. Now I think you are just wasting my time and trolling. :) I’ve been called a racist like 3 times now. Is that what you guys do, just play the racist card in every discussion? Certainly seems like it so far.

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                Lol ok. :)

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          You should read what wrote again. It’s impossible to not see how racist it is, unless you’re a rascist.

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