• Wxnzxn@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    Yeah, look, I did read the article, and the article, unlike the person who might very well have done that in their work, did not do that. All I see is the same flipping of materialist analysis into an ideological dogma, that becomes ahistoric, trying to repeat instead of following material developments towards communism. From a quick look at your links, there’s even a lot I agree with, especially in criticising the French intellectuals. It still reads like a polemic removed from reality, that values its own farts more than understanding and working towards change, but it has value. And the article you linked in the beginning does nothing, but try to opportunistically recruit people away from one ideologue (which Zizek can definitiely be called) to another idealist “team” that tries to redirect proletarian material interests and analysis. You seem to think it’s a contest of who can quote “great people” the best and who can be the most orthodox, which treats it all like a religion instead of a material movement to change the world and mode of production.

    In the end, I fear, we will be on other sides of the river, each seeing “their idealist perversions” across from “our materialist analysis”, but I at least won’t cross the river for your side any time soon.

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      4 months ago

      Okay, Holden Caulfield, best of luck with your own personal, non-phony, left-libertarian revolution.

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        4 months ago

        Nice burn, even brought in the “libertarian”, at least be consistent, if I am a Zizekian heretic, I’m not an individualist libertarian who’s afraid of authority, I am of course a liberal anticommunist reactionary who won’t acknowledge the achievements of “really existing socialism”. You strike me as someone who would have written a hit piece on Marx for profiting from British imperialism and his capitalist buddy Engels, citing the letter and his drinking habits to make clear that he is an immature mind, then join some utopian socialist fringe group.

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          You strike me as someone who would have written a hit piece on Marx for profiting from British imperialism and his capitalist buddy Engels

          I don’t why you’d have that impression, but you guessed wrong.

          Can someone be a landlord and a communist at the same time?

          <davel> It’s a red flag. At the highest level this boils down to whether that someone is consistently a traitor to their class.

          In my estimation Engels was consistent.

          his drinking habits to make clear that he is an immature mind

          How are you deciding I would think anything like that from what little you know about me? Very strange assumptions.