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I’m an American,and I boycott US products because they’re shit quality.
Before all this we used to say “Chinese quality, German price”
That’s the most accurate description that I have ever heard.
As an American…
send help :(
I don’t get it
Pro-Euro vs anti-US. The “buy European” movement is generally occupied by a mixture of genuine anti-US protestors, as well as various European nationalists. Kinda like how cottagecore got captured by the far-right, the lack of a cohesive line is leading to some groups pushing Euro-flavored fascism as an alternative to US-flavored fascism, as far right parties increasingly gain ground in the EU.
I’ve noticed a significant drop in people using the phrase “America bad” as a mocking jibe, since it no longer really works as a hyperbolic statement.
It’s too easy to reply “it is” at this point for sure.
I’m, despite being European, pro-American. It’s just that what America has become disappoints me much like it disappoints most Americans. I’m not pro this America.
The government has always been responsible for some shady shit, but for a long time there, the US stood for diversity, not against it. Yes it took a long time for certain types of people to receive equal rights, but that was unfortunately the same pretty much everywhere else too. Big American metropolitan cities are huge melting pots of culture though. Go walk around NYC, it’s awesome once you get far enough from Wall Street. I do hope I can one day still go to San Francisco as well, but despite being a white cishet male, I don’t intend to visit the US unless the current admin is replaced with a sane one.
US stood for diversity, not against it.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55574552-not-a-nation-of-immigrants
It is easy to criticize the one country that has the most different nationalities in it for its history with racism. However, can you name another country that has as large a share of minorities and does NOT have a history of racism?
Right off the bat all of Europe is already disqualified. The west dabbled in its’ own colonialism and the east under Soviet rule got so racist, the n-word is the standard way to refer to black people among people over 40. Remember that Yandex source code leak where the master-slave relationship (already a racist terminology) had “n***er” instead of slave? In many Asian countries, black people are also seen as subhuman. Scandinavia pretends to be super tolerant, but it’s superficial. Eastern Europeans are seen as lower class.
People don’t see that the entire world is racist as fuck. It’s so easy to blame a single country and act like it’s the only source of racism in the world. It might just be the most open about it, but there’s still quiet discrimination everywhere.
This is all just projecting the US’s racist settler-colonial history on others. Only a tiny minority of nations were founded in this same way, based on indigenous genocide and eviction (Israel, Australia, Canada are a few others).
Most US states didn’t even end miscegenation laws until the 1960s. It’s the only country on earth that still has slavery in fact and in law, enshrined in the 13th amendment.
The US currently operates a system of slave labor camps, including at least 54 prison farms involved in agricultural slave labor. Outside of agricultural slavery, Federal Prison Industries operates a multi-billion dollar industry with ~ 52 prison factories , where prisoners produce furniture, clothing, circuit boards, products for the military, computer aided design services, call center support for private companies. 1, 2, 3
- The US has the highest incarceration rates in the world. Even individual US states outrank all other countries.
I asked for a single country that was not racist in the 20th century, but had comparable diversity. You have not provided one yet.
The for-profit prison system is fucked for sure and no other country has fucked up this bad.
Pretty much every African country, most of se asia, most of south america, probably all but maybe 10 countries.
Anti-imperialism would make more sense. The US is not the only asshole… (Edit: Just the current worst one.)
You think we’re the worst country on the planet at the present moment in 2025? Interesting.
Edit: oh, ml
Yes. The vast extent of the negatives of maintaining a brutal Empire and the dedication towards thoroughly punishing anyone going against that system makes the US Empire the worst country on the planet.
The US empire currently maintains an imperialist network of over 800 military bases in 70 countries. (For comparison, all other countries combined have only 30 bases)
I’m not looking at opportunity for evil as a metric, just actual evil. Do you think the us causes the most direct suffering?
Absolutely, yes. No other country comes anywhere near what the US empire inflicts on the world daily.
When it comes to contemporary imperialist assholery the US is #1 by far. Since after WW2 they’ve been nothing but shitting on humanity, between the CIA installing puppet dictators to wars (open and secret) killing tens of millions. The list of countries they have fucked with is too long to post here.
And now their former closest allies are annexation targets.
The USSR was a shitty little bitch during her heyday, too. Worse than the US? I’m not sure. Eastern Europe and South America probably have a major difference of opinion there.
In the last few decades I feel like Russia may have the US beat?
If you seriously think either the USSR or modern Russia were/are worse than the USA, you need some perspective.
Anti-American is fucking weird.
How about get to the root that most of us here have in common? Even half of the Americans agree with the below principles.
Anti-consumerism for the sake of consuming. Anti-greed. Anti harming others for your own selfish gains. Anti-billionaires. Anti-waste and harming the planet.
All of the issues you list as the real problem are currently magnified by the US Empire. Without the US Empire, progress on these fronts would be far easier.
Let me break down for you why I’m anti-American. History and the absolute disregard for life the US promotes, as illustrated by the grim list below:
1. Direct Military Deaths (Combat & Bombing):
- Korean War (1950-1953): Estimates vary widely, but civilian deaths in Korea are generally placed between 2 and 4 million. US military actions contributed significantly to this toll through bombing campaigns and ground combat. A reasonable attribution for direct/indirect deaths attributable to the US is 600,000 - 1,500,000.
- Vietnam War (1955-1975): This is where the largest numbers lie. Estimates of Vietnamese civilian deaths range from 2 million to over 4 million. US bombing campaigns (Operation Rolling Thunder, Linebacker I & II) and ground operations were major contributors. Estimated US attribution: 1,000,000 - 3,800,000.
- Laos (Secret War – 1964-1973): US bombing of Laos was extensive and largely secret. Civilian deaths are estimated at tens of thousands to over 100,000. Estimated US attribution: 20,000 - 100,000.
- Cambodia (Bombing – 1969-1973): As mentioned previously, estimates range from 50,000 to over 500,000. Estimated US attribution: 50,000 - 500,000.
- Iraq (Gulf War 1991 & Iraq War 2003-2011): The Gulf War resulted in tens of thousands of civilian deaths due to bombing and sanctions. The Iraq War is even more complex, with estimates ranging from hundreds of thousands to over a million. Estimated US attribution: 100,000 - 750,000.
- Afghanistan (2001-2021): Civilian deaths are estimated in the tens of thousands. Estimated US attribution: 20,000 - 40,000.
- Libya (2011): As mentioned previously, airstrikes contributed to an estimated 25,000-30,000 civilian deaths. Estimated US Attribution: 5,000 – 15,000.
- Other Interventions/Conflicts (Grenada, Panama, Somalia, Balkans, Syria): These smaller interventions resulted in fewer direct military deaths but still contributed to overall casualties. Estimated US attribution: 5,000 - 20,000.
2. Indirect Deaths (Famine, Disease, Conflict Disruption):
- Korea: Sanctions and disruption of agriculture likely led to famine-related deaths. Estimates are difficult but could be in the hundreds of thousands.
- Vietnam/Laos/Cambodia: Displacement, destruction of infrastructure, and disruption of healthcare systems contributed to disease outbreaks and malnutrition. Estimates range from hundreds of thousands to over a million.
- Iraq (Sanctions after Gulf War): UN sanctions imposed with US support are widely believed to have contributed significantly to civilian deaths due to lack of food and medicine. Estimates vary wildly, ranging from tens of thousands to over 1 million. This is the most contentious area of attribution.
- Somalia: The “Black Hawk Down” incident and subsequent interventions disrupted aid efforts and exacerbated famine conditions.
Estimated Indirect Deaths attributable to US actions: 500,000 - 2,000,000+ (This is a very broad range due to the difficulty in isolating US influence).
3. Colonial Era (Philippines, etc.):
- Philippine-American War (1899-1902): Estimates of Filipino deaths range from 200,000 to over 1 million. This includes combat deaths and those due to disease and famine exacerbated by the conflict. Estimated US attribution: 100,000 - 600,000.
- Other Colonial Actions: Smaller incidents in other territories are difficult to quantify but likely resulted in additional deaths.
Overall Estimated Range of Deaths Attributable to US Foreign Interventions Since 1945:
Combining all categories (direct military, indirect, and colonial era), a reasonable estimate falls within the range of 2.5 million to over 8 million deaths. It is crucial to understand that this is an estimate based on available data and methodologies, and the true number could be higher or lower. The wide range reflects the inherent uncertainties in these calculations.
Regarding CIA-Installed Dictatorships:
While a precise count is difficult, historians generally identify at least 10-20 countries where US involvement (including covert operations by the CIA) played a significant role in installing or supporting authoritarian regimes since 1945. Examples include:
- Iran (1953)
- Guatemala (1954)
- Chile (1973)
- Brazil (multiple interventions)
- Argentina (multiple interventions)
- Greece (1947-1949)
- Philippines (various periods)
- Indonesia (1965)
- Nicaragua (1980s)
- Afghanistan (1980s)
This list is not exhaustive, and the degree of US influence in each case varies.
I think that means you do not like American government and foreign policy.
Not the American people.
I think that’s the line that becomes vague when you say “anti-American”.
Americans in history have been trying to fight the evil machine and have been assassinated or villianized.
- JFK
- MLK
- Edward Snowden
I’ll also say that other countries are not without blame. There is no reason why other countries should have trusted another country to protect them.
Every country should have invested a healthy amount into their armies and never let one country get so powerful.
Or exploit their populace for pennies. (INDIA/MEXICO COUGH)
Imperialism is the devil on this planet but were all responsible for not fighting back against the machine or uniting the world working class.
We have the technology now with things like the fediverse. The doors are open for now for open communication and coordination.
Wow, so not only you’re justifying the present actions of your government but you also manage to slide in some victim-blaming in the process.
I fucking despise America’s principles. It’s stolen land built on genocide and perpetuated by constant war.
Victim blaming who? The UK taught America how to exploit and also did the same. Heck they even did it better in terrifying way.
Other countries just now thought of adjusting their GDP to account for not relying on the American Military.
Can you explain to me how that is not oversight? How that is not irresponsible?
Im Mexican American so I understand how the fucking border flew over my people.
But there isn’t a black and white villian here. Plenty of powerful people in multiple countries help create the reality and dynamics of the countries.
American principles? There hasn’t been a united states of America to have unified principles since our inception. It was just loud propaganda to tell us so.
I don’t even think we should be this big. You know how many countries are unified in ideals because they are monoculture, monotheist, monoracial? Were not it.
But its also what makes us beautiful. Being a melting pot not often seen in a majority of countries.
