• mononomi@feddit.nl
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    3 days ago

    they claimed…that Big Pharma used vaccines to make money, at the expense of people’s health.

    I see this all the time with vaccine sceptics and I mean, yeah… Can’t we unite on the fact that vaccines should be public and not some private investment

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      19 hours ago

      funny thing is pharma would never make vaccines if it not for subsidies by the govt, its just not profitable to them.

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      2 days ago

      I’m still pissed how the COVID vaccine (and practically every medication) was researched a d developed with public funds, but the patent is owned by private companies.

      The public paid for it, it should belong to the people.

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        There’s just more and more of this lately. We give money to the govt, they fork it over to some company, they use money to make a product I have to pay for, again.

        Sorry that’s just fucking dumb. Don’t bail companies out or give huge grants, make them compete for contracts and have the people own a portion to reduce cost to the US consumer. It’s socialism, sure. But at least we’d come out ahead instead of getting hosed again.

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      2 days ago

      it is crazy how close they are to understanding the toxicity of capitalism, but they stop at the last moment to scapegoat someone else.

      it’s not the Billionaires who are dangerous, it’s the one Jewish billionaire

      it’s not there banks who are toxic, it’s the Jewish bankers

      it’s not capitalism that prioritises profits over health, it’s just the vaccine

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      It’s the best way to get vaccines though.

      I can imagine a government controlled bureaucracy trying to invent new stuff 😰

      Edit: people have no idea how modern medication is made.

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        3 days ago

        What, like NASA or university grants? Government-backed research happens all the time in loads of fields.

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        3 days ago

        If the government is so bad and untrustworthy, why not instead of just accepting that they’re bad and trying to not let them do stuff… we change the government to make it more trustworthy.

        I don’t know your political leanings but the Republicans in congress almost all universally thin that government sucks and is bad, and they do everything in their power to make that assumption a reality

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        I can imagine a government controlled bureaucracy trying to invent new stuff 😰

        No need to imagine, it’s like the main way we do research in the US. Or at least it used to be…

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          Yup, that golden age when we came back from the depression was because of socialist policies FDR put in place and the rich immediately began to vilify (note these rich clowns caused the depression).

          Socialism isn’t a boogyman, it’s the reason anything is working at all.