• ILoveUnions@lemmy.world
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      21 hours ago

      I hate to tell you this, but basically every country has the same story, except the very young. They don’t need to learn from our history; they should learn from their own.

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        10 hours ago

        Lots of countries committed colonialism, not many countries committed genocide on the native population and stole their land to create and expand their nation. The U.S. and Israel are members of a short list.

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            It’s horrifyingly common among European countries. That’s not “every country” unless you think only westerners are civilized.

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              Somali, Chile, Argentina, south Africa, Japan, Korea, China. It’s horrifyingly common no matter what area.

              Also, what part of genocide do you think is about being civilized…?

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                South African apartheid was a Dutch colonial project. There’s been no genocide in China and the one in Korea was perpetrated by the US.

                Also, what part of genocide do you think is about being civilized…?

                Either you have the shittiest reading comprehension or you’re deliberately misrepresenting the argument to twist it into such a comical interpretation. You’re the one that said “every country” and proceeded to link to a NATOpedia page that fails to list a whole bunch of European/US genocides and even then is short, oh, about 96% of countries on earth.

                Despite numerous instances of racial discrimination in many Latin American countries (most often at the hands of CIA backed organizations like Pinochet’s government or the Brazilian junta) the fact is that none of these countries were founded on a war in favor of maintaining slavery and expanding into indigenous lands. In fact, most were founded by the descendants of indigenous peoples casting off the their colonial masters.

                To say that every country has been founded via genocide is to imply this is just a normal, unavoidable thing, which is genocide apologia. I wish westerners would stop whitewashing their Nazi ass societies like smearing the rest of us is a good alternative to doing something about the legacy of violence you were raised by.

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        10 hours ago

        Lots of countries committed colonialism, not many countries committed genocide on the native population and stole their land to create and expand their nation. The U.S. and Israel are members of a short list.

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            Ok? Those are the ones we were talking about on this map, youre moving the goalposts from “every” to “yeah the whole international community” which was the point to begin with. These countries get on their high horse when they have an exceptionally genocidal history.