• Cocopanda@lemmy.world
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    My parents started screaming at me when I brought up a preacher killed these democrats. Telling me he was a Liberal. When I showed them his sermons in Africa. Again they double downed and said he was a democrat.

    How would you respond to this ignorance? What facts can I show them. If they won’t even believe his own words at a church in Africa?

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      The more you try to use facts and reason, the more they will dig their heels in. It’s a tough uphill climb

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        Sadly they don’t watch the news on TV. They went Qanon from social media and I can’t get to their phones.

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          That depends entirely on how sneaky and unscrupulous you’re willing to be lol

          Seriously though I’m sorry you’re dealing with this, it’s a shitty place to be. Personally I’ve had friends have some success with anti-cult/anti-brainsashing techniques but even when done under ideal conditions with people in obvious and outright cults it can fail. The human brain really just is wired in such a way cult think can genuinely hijack it

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    There was some story about privacy and politicians finally getting off their asses when they learned that their business records at porn shops could be revealed. I think this was in the 80s. Not sure at what level, but probably pretty local, I would guess.

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      There are some legitimate uses for them but I definitely think they should be locked down so that only people who actually have a legitimate need can find people.

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        I don’t like data brokering in general, but they definitely need to crack down on de-anonymization.

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          Anonymous data sources are largely a myth. The idea you can have large sets of data remain anonymous is unrealistic. Once you have enough data points, it’s easy to de-anonymize almost any individual

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    It’s actually really easy to get your info off these sites, as they have to delete it upon your request. Just take 20 minutes, pull up any random Top 20 Background Check Sites list, locate the specific pages with your info, and go to town with those deletion requests. (There should be a link to a deletion form on the page or a link to submit a request via email, at least that’s how it was when I did this five years ago.)

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      I read your post and reply below and am surprised that your info never showed back up online.

      I tried this myself about a year ago back when Google first announced they would also add a tool to assist in removal of unnecessary info like this.

      I found that I was able to remove about 70% that never came back.

      10-15 percent more, whether they were via Google or whatever, would flat out refuse to remove the info for various reasons.

      The remainder would often remove it only for me to find it later with some sort of ‘change’ and that being - they put the info back in and had changed the spelling of my last name or now had me listed as a business so as to get around certain privacy listing rules (like WTF).

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      I’m not a lawyer, but from my understanding there’s actually no legal obligation for them to delete US citizens’ data. They generally delete it anyways to avoid creating backlash that would lead to regulation, though.

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        It probably depends on the state.

        But, I did mine five years ago and still check it periodically. My info’s not on Spokeo or any of those scummy sites even all these years later, so it’s a good way to spend 20-30 minutes.

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    There is no allegedly, the dude was a total boomer and literally wrote out instructions on how to dox someone in his notebook which are shown in the federal complaint against him

    Literally outlines which sites are free, which ones have free trials, etc

    Like you you would think he would just use a text document or bookmarks or something

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      Idk if I’m planning on murdering someone I’m not keeping it in digital form where who knows who or what is stealing/scraping it or using a back door or whatever. Deleting stuff off a computer can also be difficult with insane things being recovered off computers. I would have zero interest in linking anything illegal to anything digital in this day and age.

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      Writing stuff down with pen and paper is an objectively better way to remember things then digital files, also way more secure unless you really, really know what you’re doing.

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      Well considering he chose to use a pyro-mechanical firearm, instead of things like social/political/legal/economical tools to accomplish his goal, seems to check out lol

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    The last major American privacy law, the 1988 Video Privacy Protection Act was passed in 1988 by Reagan. The only reason it happened is that politicians realized that their privacy was affected. Robert Bork was going through his Supreme Court confirmation hearings and someone got a hold of the tapes he had rented and published them.

    Politicians were worried about their own personal privacy, so they passed a new law to protect the privacy of people’s video tape rentals.

    Maybe the fact that the targets here were politicians will mean that something will happen with data privacy, for once.

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    The suspect faces several charges of second-degree murder.

    This baffles me. Looking up your fucking victim’s addresses isn’t enough evidence of premeditation to qualify for first-degree charges?

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      Arguably, the list alone, plus the customized police vehicle and police outfit, would be enough premeditation.

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      That’s a charge that’s guaranteed, and may be all they need to achieve the outcome of him going away forever. They’re also free to charge him with more things, once the investigation finds more evidence

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      In Minnesota, a grand jury is required for first degree. This is just a placeholder charge until they can get a jury.

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        That’s what I figured after thinking about it, that there had to be some procedural reason for it.

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      If he was left-wing, this would be prosecuted (and propagandized by the media) as terrorism.

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        As a non American, wtf happened with that dude that almost killed trump? I feel like I heard about the whole thing when it happened, but it kinda just went away and I’m not even sure what that guy’s deal was. Maybe because we didn’t get all the headlines in Canada, but it certainly felt like it was brushed under a rug to me.

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          He got killed by the secret service during his attempt, I’m not sure they were later able to assess motive and stuff

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          Seems like there was more reporting on their clothing choice than on the person themselves.

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        he wouldve been charged already, much like with mr luigi was. since he targeted the protected “:class”

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        Luigi is white and they’re trying to send him to the gallows.

        I think him being conservative is the factor here.

        Although I agree if he weren’t white he would be treated way worse…

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          IMO nothing to do with the murderer, all to do with the targets. If the assassin was a black conservative dude popping off perceived liberals/Democrats/socialist/antifa/any other word it would be the same. If the dude was a white conservative and was shooting at perceived Republican/Nationalist/fascist/bootlickers/bigots and or billionaires, straight to the gulag.

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      While true, the lookup is the address to the owner, not the other way around. Compiling the information to show querying by person should be illegal.

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      You can find out someone’s home address from their email address. These brokers are out of control.

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        It’s insane how many there are. I’ve been using Experian to find and remove my info from these sites and there are literally hundreds it’s done so far.

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          I guarantee you none of your data is actually deleted. Experian is a surveillance capitalism data broker. They’re selling both the virus and the snake oil to “cure” it.

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            I’m only talking about those scummy sites that have your info if you web search your own name. Corporations have been buying and selling my info for decades, at this point.

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          Crazy crowdfunding idea - what if we bought the whole thing and individually requested delisting for everyone?