• Infamousblt [any]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    You’re pretty upset that I asked a question aren’t you? I wonder why that is.

    Government and politicians I think are pretty self explanatory and I would agree those are inherently political, no argument there.

    What do you think is part of a general culture of a country, or not? How would you define culture that has conflicting opinions? Is it solely up to your discretion, or would you agree that if anyone has any disagreement about a meme that would make it automatically political?

    Is this one political because it references the FBI, a governmental organization? https://startrek.website/post/1847371 I would argue that it is political.

    Is this one political because it references culture related to advertising in capitalism? I would think everyone should agree that any reference to or commentary of an economic system is inherently political because of course economic systems are controversial. I don’t see how anyone could argue that references to a combination of two major brands isn’t a commentary on marketing: https://programming.dev/post/3200916

    I mean this one references politics so it’s clearly political right? https://lemm.ee/post/8502748

    I’m just curious about what you and others think is political versus not. You can’t have a discussion about if something should or should not be allowed if you can’t clearly define the boundaries of that thing. I find the discussion around what is and isn’t politics to be an interesting one, that’s all.

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      1 year ago

      Not upset, just suspicious because I’ve seen you asking that question a lot.

      Obviously what I consider political is up to my discretion, but I’m pretty sure the general definition does not include contentious memes, and mine doesn’t either because I gave a clause about one side considering the other side evil because of it.

      In general, if a person asks themselves “is what I’m posting political?” they can answer correctly 95% of the time, and the 5% of edge cases won’t upset 95% of the complainers.

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        That’s an awful lot of words to implicitly say “it’s not political if I agree with it”

        “If a person asks themselves is this political they can answer correctly 95% of the time.”

        Yea turns out it’s easier to answer a question correctly if you’re deciding I’d the answer is right or not.

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          That’s an awful lot of words to implicitly say “it’s not political if I agree with it”

          Where are you getting that?

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            Where you said your test is asking yourself if you thought it was political and saying you were right 95% of the time.

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              What I meant was that anyone can ask themselves if it’s political, and 95% of the time they’ll get it right by the standards of 95% of the people who don’t like politics.

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                Ohh so it’s at the discretion of people who “don’t like politics” if it’s political or not.

                Dont worry I’ve seen those “non political” people talk a lot so I know what you mean.

                Like how there’s two races. White and “political”

                So as long as what you post doesn’t offend straight white people it isn’t political, but if it does then it is.

                What a refreshing and original take.

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      I think can answer the memes questions for you.

      1. Non political
      2. Non political
      3. I guess it could be considered political in a way, but it doesn’t target a specific party or opinion so I’d let it through.
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        Lmao. The FBI: famously non-political government organization that murders activists as easily as one can breath air.

        And Microsoft: famously non-political company that bribes lobbies the u.s government constantly to gain monopoly over their market, works hand-in-hand with federal agencies to monitor system users, and regularly influences city, state, and national politics in the pursuit of subsidies of the American worker in order to further boost their already gross profit margins.

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          I’m not disagreeing that some companies can have a political impact on the world.

          Those memes in particular, aren’t focused on the political aspects. You have to be missing a brain in order to miss the point there.

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            No you have to be missing a brain to think monopolies don’t have anything to do with politics.

            Stealing a line from something I saw earlier. If you don’t like the memes just ignore them like you do the homeless people you walk by, non-politically.

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              I never said they don’t have anything to do with politics you dumbfuck. Re-read my post.

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                Ok I re read the part where you said

                1. Not political

                And interpreted that to mean you didn’t think it was political.

                If that wasn’t the intent you should work on communicating more clearly, or not being mad when people correctly read what you posted.

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                  Oh god. How thick can you be? I meant the MEME isn’t political. Never said anything about Microsoft or other big companies.

                  You did not read correctly, indeed. The question was if the meme was political, not Microsoft.

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                    Oh god. How thick can you be? You did not read correctly, indeed. The question was if the meme was political. And it clearly is, since it references political entities and distributes the ideology of whoever is OP of the meme to a bunch of unsuspecting lurkers that falsely assume it’s non-political. Also the fact that you disagree about what is and what isn’t political makes it political