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حمید پیام عباسی@crazypeople.online to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 months ago

Victims of Communism

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Victims of Communism

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حمید پیام عباسی@crazypeople.online to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 months ago
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    • Reads The Gulag Archipelago
    • Look inside
    • The victims of Communism are it’s is own people
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      • Reads a book of fiction by a treasonous Nazi sympathizer
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        Sure, Solzhenitsyn was a fascist sympathizer in his later years. So as an alternative, I offer Kolyma Tales by Varlam Shalamov whose only sus thing was to say that the German army was effective for which he got ten years in a gulag which I think is pretty harsh for a statement like that. https://ia600707.us.archive.org/3/items/kolymatales/Kolyma Tales by Varlan Shalanov.pdf

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      Even the author’s wife described the book as “folklore” lmao

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        ‘Ex-wife’

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      Try non-fiction

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          Calling it nonfiction don’t make it so. https://www.nytimes.com/1974/02/06/archives/solzhenitsyns-exwife-says-gulag-is-folklore.html

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          Try harder

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      Rather than reading fiction, you could read something like Russian Justice if you wanted to learn how the soviet legal system worked.

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        See also Carl Madsens visit to a Soviet Prison in 1965 (Excerpts from The Good Doctor, also in there a look at the GDR legal system, which for those that have read Russian Justice will see some similarities.) Potentially Justice in Moscow George Fifer, and for the nerds Soviet Administration of Criminal Law Judah Zelitch.

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          Great recs, comrade! 🫡

          • ∞🏳️‍⚧️Edie [it/it/its/its/itself, she/her/her/hers/herself, fae/faer/faer/faers/faerself, love/love/loves/loves/loveself, des/pair, null/void, none/use name]@lemmy.ml
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            Oh right, also this article Soffiyah Elijah: Lessons from Cuba’s Incarceration Model in which I see similarities to the other books/excerpts I recommended.

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              Oh awesome! Cuba’s an area I need more development on, thanks for the rec!

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        Socialist states do make mistakes, but linking a work of fiction and pretending the “victims of communism were its own people” is just wrong.

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        The funny part is, I was born and raised in a socialist country and it was shit.

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          my parents tell me all the time about the slaves we used to have before the reds forced us to leave or be killed

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          Some of us are as well and there are differences of opinion on that matter. 😄

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            We’re leftists, that’s exactly our thing.

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              We’re leftists

              Somehow I doubt that one.

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                  I don’t normally consider people that use anti-communist pejoratives like “tankie” to be genuine in their leftism. Especially those that try to pretend works of fiction are genuine evidence against socialism.

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                    Lol, you’re confirming the meme.

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          Some were born in a capitalist country that is shit, in fact even more shit than the GDR. What’s your point?

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          Which one

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            The other Germany.

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              Damn, how old are you?

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                Older than the internet.

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                  Yeah, but you’d have to be at least 55 to have lived in east Germany as an independent adult

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                  Not a chance

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          Cool story

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