I DON’T mean other games that let you build a car from scratch.

I’m looking for other complex open world games that throw you into the deep end without any explanation, and are completely unforgiving when you make mistakes.
Games that even actively hate the player, but give you a deep sense of satisfaction when you finally figure it out.

So no tutorial, no quest markers, no mini-map, no quick-saving, etc.
Bonus points if they also show you a glimpse into a niche culture, like My Summer Car does with rural life in Finland during the 90’s economic depression.

Other examples I can think of are Kingdom Come Deliverance in hardcore mode and Dwarf Fortress. Which ones do you know?

    • Pommes_für_dein_Balg@feddit.orgOPEnglish
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      10 days ago

      First review on Steam - Negative:

      Personally, I find the game just too hard.
      Absolutely NOTHING is explained (there isn’t even a tutorial), so I can’t even figure out how to get rid of, reduce, or avoid the fog in the early game.
      There seems to be a story, but since there’s no clear path on how or where to explore, it gets completely lost.
      The enemies simply can’t be fended off during the first fog phase, as they’re just way too strong due to their sheer numbers…

      Second review - Positive:

      piss

      Yup, that’s the game I’m looking for!

    • Coelacanth@feddit.nuEnglish
      2·
      10 days ago

      That is the weirdest thing I’ve seen in a while. Not sure I want to play it but I’d watch a playthrough.

      • Sv443@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        10 days ago

        Yeah I also only watched it. Not quite the mix of mechanics I enjoy in survival games.
        I recommend Pr1vateLime’s series, he always makes an effort to learn some of the mechanics beforehand without being overt about it, which I feel makes the videos more engaging than someone struggling for hours.