The question that everyone has been dying to know has been answered. Finally! What will scientists study next?

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    4 minutes ago

    That’s because they only considered one monkey.

    You need a thousand monkeys working at a thousand typewriters.

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      1 hour ago

      It’s not a “study”, it’s just 2 mathematicians having some fun. The paper is a good read, and as a math teacher I see a lot of pedagogical values in such publications.

  • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
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    How is the infinite monkey theorum “misleading”. It’s got “infinite” in the name. If you’re applying constraints based on the size or age of the universe, you are fundamentally misunderstanding the thought experiment.

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    There was a plank computer post here last couple of days. It showed an atomic sized computer performing one crack attempt every 10^-44 seconds would take a 95 character alphabet 100 years to crack a 121 character password.

    Monkeys take up 1m^3. 10^105 bigger than a plank length. Typing 120wpm is 10^43 slower. Ignoring punctuation and spaces and capitalization, a 26 character alphabet allows for about 52 more characters than a 95 character alphabet.

    Bottom line, monkeys can’t come anywhere close to being able to crack a 100 character password from a 26 character alphabet.

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    2 hours ago

    This sort of study shows you more how mathematicians think than how science or philosophy works.

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    So, while the Infinite Monkey Theorem is true, it is also somewhat misleading.

    Is it though? The Monkey Theorem should make it understandable how long infinity really is. That the lifetime of the universe is not long enough is nothing unexpected IMHO, infinity is much (infinitely) longer. And that’s what the theorem is about, isn’t it?!

    • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
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      And an infinite amount of time.

      This “rebuttal” is forced contrarianism. It’s embarrassing.

      A thought experiment has rules, you can’t just change them and say the experiment doesn’t make sense…

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        How would monkeys type through infinite. Don’t they stop, are they not mortals like normal monkeys?

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        The other part of it is there’s not only one monkey who does Hamlet correct on the first attempt, there’s two, three four, guess what - an infinite amount of them.

        And another infinity that get it right after 5 minutes

        Another infinity that take exactly 10 years 3 months 2 days 3 hours 4 minutes and 17 seconds

        And another infinity that takes one second less than the life of the universe

        And another infinity that takes a googleplex of the lifetime of the universe to complete

        that’s the point of the thought experiment

      • ozymandias117@lemmy.world
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        For what it’s worth, it seems like it’s this “journalist” trying to make a sensational headline

        The researchers themselves very clearly just tried to see if it could happen in our reality

        “We decided to look at the probability of a given string of letters being typed by a finite number of monkeys within a finite time period consistent with estimates for the lifespan of our universe,”

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    39 minutes ago

    I always heard that it was an infinite number of monkeys, not just one. So one of them might get the job done in time.

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      5 hours ago

      I can’t remember the author or title, but that was the idea for a story I once read.

      God sends an angel and the monkeys to do the job. They get close, but when the angel is doing the final read through he sees "…to be, or not to beee, Damn the ‘E’ key is sticking. " And they have to start over