• Codilingus@sh.itjust.works
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    Isn’t Israel’s dirty little money fingers in damn near every nook and cranny of all of the USA’s federal elections, and by large amounts?

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      There’s the pointless blame game, y’all play when your “democracy” fails again and again and again. When the fuck are you stupid Americans gonna figure out what the rest of the world knows from the USA spreading “freedom” and “democracy”? You have no one to blame but yourself, bud.

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      she didn’t even win the popular vote and there’s aren’t enough leftists to keep up that blue wall.

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      I hope you like the result of Genocide Joe and Holocaust Harris hard work to win their election! Blue MAGA really did a great job of banning dissent from their echo chamber to keep the gas chamber going. Turns out Genocide is not as popular as they made you believe.

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      Yeah, he might 100% support genocide via his cutout McGurk… Oh wait, Biden kept McGurk on staff from Trump’s first term and has been letting him guide policy this whole time…

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        You do know mcgurk’s been there through bush and obama too, right? He’s not a trump installation

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          Yeah, the party that ran against W’s war crimes kept him twice. And they wonder why their voters are dispirited.

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      war thing everyone gets so invested in yet no one does anything about beyond participating in thinly veiled socialization rituals and including symbols of support into their wardrobes and memes.

      projection

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        Maybe, but I don’t feel particularly invested in any war thing.

        Polarization does get to me sometimes, but I feel like my contributions regarding that issue constitute legitimate efforts.

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          It’s still projection. You are incapable of caring about the genocide of millions, and so you assume that everyone else is too.

          P.S. pigpoop

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            What makes you think I’m incapable of caring or that i assume others are?

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      What humanity? What humanity do the sons of settlers have? What matter are the feelings they’ve used to rule over all and sundry for practically all of recorded western history in some form or another? What “white men” fear sickens me, because all that cohort has EVER seemed to fear was not being on top. Crackers fear that we would treat them as they have treated us; and honestly at this point, it’d be warranted if we did.

      That is ‘the quiet part you won’t say out loud’. That is what the cohort you currently bear the water of fears. That you want me to shed tears for that genuinely sickens me, you fuckin loser.

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          I believe that power grows out of the barrel of a gun, and that if John Brown had shot more colonizing slaver bastards, we definitely wouldn’t be having this conversation right now.

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            Then we can agree on something, at least partially. Have a nice day and I’m sorry if I upset you.

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          Honestly I don’t believe that; but even that’s true, you’re still carrying their water; so you may as well be white.

          We’re not fucking friends; and I don’t claim you as kinfolk. “Humanity of the settler”, get the actual fuck out.

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            Ermm… should i post pics of my unibrow? My post history is 90% spanish. My entry point is from a chilean server in which I actively participate… Why is this even relevant though?

            The only water I’m carrying is the one that nurtures universal empathy. Maybe you should take a sip. It’s very healing.

            Ok, non-friend. I’m sorry for attempting to extend consideration towards you.

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    The democrats lost because they don’t completely align on some of my favourite issues, it has nothing to do with how people felt about the state of the economy or a lack of focus on certain demographics.

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      Very true; people should not be making decisions on silly inconsequential little things like a genocide.

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        Note the “completely align”, if you care about the conflict in Israel and the Gaza strip then the worst decision you could make is allowing Trump to win and give Netanyahu free reign to do whatever he wants.

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          Even if every single leftist voted for Kamala, she would still lose; there aren’t enough leftists in this country to restore that blue wall.

          She lost because of the genocide and alienating her base while trying to become a diet republican.

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          Netanyahu is already doing whatever he wants and you’re doing apologetics for genocide. The current Biden administration is complicit in genocide and no amount of crystal ball gazing is gonna change that. Israel is currently doing everything they ever dreamed of doing. All the libs claiming Trump will get Israel to nuke Gaza are absolutely absurd. They’re no going to nuke land they want to steal and settle, are they?

          I’m sick of this shit. The two Amerikkkan parties are identical on foreign policy

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            Oh they are are they? Better let the dude explicitly in favor of Israel’s approach win over the woman who wasn’t mean enough to Israel I guess. And fuck all the other points, we’ve got standards.

            Man, idk if I’m mad or amused. You either don’t live in the US and your stance didn’t change anything, or you do and going by your pronouns you’re about to reap all the rewards.

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              smug liberal asshole fantasizes about me getting put in the trans camps because I recognize that both Amerikkkan parties are complicit in genocide. I don’t know where you’ve been, but Biden and Harris were shaking hands with Bibi just in July. The arms shipments haven’t ceased, no sanctions on Israel have been proposed, nothing is being done besides token efforts that fail on purpose.

              “wasn’t mean enough to Israel I guess” Is it so much to ask that someone not complicit in genocide be the president? How about this, if the Democrats are so open and willing in their genocide of Palestinians, what hope does that hold for people like me? How can I trust any of you liberals? “Oh, we’ll bomb Palestinian women and children, but don’t worry you trans and gay folk, you’re fine.”

              Yeah ok, except I remember the “first they came for the communists” poem and it’s certainly correct about both of our stupid bloodthirsty parties. I’m old enough to have protested against the Iraq War and I’ve personally watched how current Democrats have simply become the Republicans. Harris fucking accepted an endorsement from Dick Cheney, one of the most evil bastards who ever lived. Slaughtered a million plus Iraqis. And yet here you are concocting a situation where only one side will put me in camps or whatever because I recognize the simple reality that the Demokkkrats and Republikkkans are both explicitly genocidal against my Palestinian comrades

              why are you people like this, you people never learn anything. Fuck off. The Dead Kennedys were right about everything.

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                So you recognize the danger you’re putting yourself in by insisting you’d rather have nothing than only a little? That’s what I’m getting out of this frothing mess of a comment.

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                  I recognize that neither electoral party has anything to offer me, especially if both of them are complicit in genocide. Both sides have nothing. Both are equally dangerous. I’m not going to trust any promises that they make. Did I put it in civil enough terms for you, liberal?

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                  This “frothing mess of a comment”? LOL, it was clear, coherent, consistent, well written, and it took you to task on how slimey and ignorant not to mention hypocritical you are, so you call it a “frothing mess.” I wonder who is really rage-cry and frothingfash here.

                  But no surprise the only thing you’re “getting out of it” isn’t something she even implied.

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              Love how you settler sons of dogs drop the masks as soon as you feel you’ve been shown insufficient loyalty. I cannot wait for you to live in the Amerika I was born into, you smug cracker fuck. I want to watch you bleed.

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                Sorry to disappoint but I’m only gonna benefit from official Republican policies, so… thanks? I guess? Was just trying to help you non-wealthy non-crackers.

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        Will this result make that better?

        No, seriously. If that’s the biggest issue, to the exclusion of all others - does this event make it better, or worse?

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          harris’ words said that she was trying to help, but her actions say otherwise; so it’s the same result either way.

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            Okay great, so the problem was unavoidable, in this decision. It made no difference. Why the fuck should we have that problem, and also outright fascism?

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              i make no distinction between facist and facist-enablers. nevertheless, lemmy convinced me to find someone to vote swap with and i did in nevada.

              the american people chose facism; so go ask them.

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      lack of focus on certain demographics

      There was no “lack of focus” lmao. They focused very hard on telling every demographic that matters to go fuck themselves in different ways. Arabs were told genocide is good, Latinos were told immigration is bad, and black people were told that if they wanted to not be poor, they should buy crypto and start a business.

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      We need Genocide Joe to commit Genocide to win the election

      Nobody should replace Skeletor Genocide Joe, he is the incumbent that is the bestest candidate

      Actually Kamala needs to run without holding primaries. It is too late now!

      Kamala must promise keep supporting Genocide, if she doesn’t she will lose

      Kamala needs Liz Cheney to win over voters.

      Actually the economy is bad so it does not matter what Democrats would have done