Rules require enforcement which requires people coming together to form a consensus and outfitting and maintaining the livelihood of enforcers, which is NOT ANARCHY.
No, what you describe is chaos. Anarchy means there are no rulers. People rule themselves and are also looking out for each other thus enforcing the minimum set of rules that are necessary to have a stable society. Rules can come from a consensus, yes.
A current example is the anarchist punk camp on Sylt where it was decided that dogs need to be on a leash when your are in the camp. If someone sees someone with a dog without a leash, they tell them of the decision and why it was made and that’s it.
Not to mention the obvious fact that a position of, “rule enforcer”, even where necessary like like tracking down and imprisoning a murderer, needn’t be a permanent role given to people that can then abuse others with that authority.
Anarchism doesn’t mean zero authority. It means no unjustified authority.
Since writing that last comment I have that funny thought of a diplomacy lottery in my head where it’s randomly decided who will join a trained diplomat or experts on state visits to represent the people. “… And this year… Dale will visit the environmental summit with our experts in …” followed by an AMA where Dale can share their impressions. I’d love it ;D
“I learned that it’s just a retreat for rich fucks to suck themselves off and pretend like they’re saving the world while changing nothing for the better.”
If no permanent rules are in place then those temporary role enforcers will just enforce whatever rules they want. Like the splicers are doing by harvesting your delicious liver.
No. They only receive the authority to do a specific thing. They go out of bounds? That’s OBVIOUSLY an abuse of authority and they’ll get themselves in trouble.
Anarchy is synonymous with Chaos. Every dictionary and every printed encyclopedia agrees on that. Fontaine and his horde of Splicers are all “looking out for one another.”
1: a political theory holding all forms of governmental authority to be unnecessary and undesirable and advocating a society based on voluntary cooperation and free association of individuals and groups
1
a: absence of government
b: a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority
the city’s descent into anarchy
c: a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government
2
a: absence or denial of any authority or established order
anarchy prevailed in the war zone
b: absence of order : disorder
Yeah, those are definitions when used as a literary term, or an extreme example. You’re not wrong that anarchy can refer to no rules at all, but social contracts and agreements can exist and it still be anarchy just fine.
Well, because things in practice are often different than the extreme end of the definition, and I’m arguing because I enjoy it and it exposes me to other perspectives. Like how you see no benefit to anarchy tells me about your lived expieriences and/or how you would plan to act in an anarchal society.
Also, social contracts are enforced in anarchy, just not by an entity emposed by a governing body. I’d say social contracts are more worthwhile when they flourish without the need for enforcement. E.g. people watching what they say in public around children. You won’t get arrested for swearing until it’s “disturbing the peace”.
Rules require enforcement which requires people coming together to form a consensus and outfitting and maintaining the livelihood of enforcers, which is NOT ANARCHY.
No, what you describe is chaos. Anarchy means there are no rulers. People rule themselves and are also looking out for each other thus enforcing the minimum set of rules that are necessary to have a stable society. Rules can come from a consensus, yes.
A current example is the anarchist punk camp on Sylt where it was decided that dogs need to be on a leash when your are in the camp. If someone sees someone with a dog without a leash, they tell them of the decision and why it was made and that’s it.
Not to mention the obvious fact that a position of, “rule enforcer”, even where necessary like like tracking down and imprisoning a murderer, needn’t be a permanent role given to people that can then abuse others with that authority.
Anarchism doesn’t mean zero authority. It means no unjustified authority.
Since writing that last comment I have that funny thought of a diplomacy lottery in my head where it’s randomly decided who will join a trained diplomat or experts on state visits to represent the people. “… And this year… Dale will visit the environmental summit with our experts in …” followed by an AMA where Dale can share their impressions. I’d love it ;D
“I learned that it’s just a retreat for rich fucks to suck themselves off and pretend like they’re saving the world while changing nothing for the better.”
If no permanent rules are in place then those temporary role enforcers will just enforce whatever rules they want. Like the splicers are doing by harvesting your delicious liver.
No. They only receive the authority to do a specific thing. They go out of bounds? That’s OBVIOUSLY an abuse of authority and they’ll get themselves in trouble.
They receive authority from themselves or it isn’t anarchy.
lol no.
Anarchy is synonymous with Chaos. Every dictionary and every printed encyclopedia agrees on that. Fontaine and his horde of Splicers are all “looking out for one another.”
Only if you’re an edgy teenage dumbass who just watched A Clockwork Orange…
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anarchism
1: a political theory holding all forms of governmental authority to be unnecessary and undesirable and advocating a society based on voluntary cooperation and free association of individuals and groups
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anarchy
1
a: absence of government
b: a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority the city’s descent into anarchy
c: a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government
2 a: absence or denial of any authority or established order anarchy prevailed in the war zone
b: absence of order : disorder
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally
1 : in a literal sense or manner
2 : in effect : virtually —used in an exaggerated way to emphasize a statement or description that is not literally true or possible
Yeah, those are definitions when used as a literary term, or an extreme example. You’re not wrong that anarchy can refer to no rules at all, but social contracts and agreements can exist and it still be anarchy just fine.
This is both a literary term and an extreme example, idk why you’re here arguing it if you agree on that usage.
Social contracts without enforcement are worthless.
Well, because things in practice are often different than the extreme end of the definition, and I’m arguing because I enjoy it and it exposes me to other perspectives. Like how you see no benefit to anarchy tells me about your lived expieriences and/or how you would plan to act in an anarchal society.
Also, social contracts are enforced in anarchy, just not by an entity emposed by a governing body. I’d say social contracts are more worthwhile when they flourish without the need for enforcement. E.g. people watching what they say in public around children. You won’t get arrested for swearing until it’s “disturbing the peace”.
This has yet to be demonstrated.