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      Oh Rene…what are you doing with the painting of the fallen Madonna with the big boobies?

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    “activist” even trying to discredit foreign federal bureaus by framing them as politically motivated lmao what a bunch of fucking crooks in the US admin.

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    But Twitter censors all kinds of posts? There is no free speech on Twitter. Just try posting the word cisgendered and see what happens.

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    100% “X is an organized crime group”. if you count brainwashing as a crime, which i do.

    they’re manipulating public opinion towards what the rich want to hear. it’s all propaganda.

    elon musk bought twitter to conduct “social engineering” after doing classical engineering before at tesla. it’s all just a way to control what people think, and it’s partially working. the people need to get off commercial social media and use something community-hosted, like the fediverse. to reduce the tinkering with recommendation algorithms and also to reduce the bot army.

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    Them: Democratic governments should allow all voices to be heard

    Us: Free Palestine

    Them: Terrorist!

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    It is not censorship. This is not a government telling you what to publish or not. This is just finding out how a company is abusing its product to influence politics.

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    By condemning this, the “US” is shooting itself in the foot.

    Ever since Twitter owner used Twitter to say Canada “wasn’t a real country”, no Canadian should be using Twitter. That wasn’t just bias, it was an “in your face and screw you” kind of bias.

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    Of course the US will fight tooth and nail to keep its propaganda machines at work all around the globe.

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      Except that Trump is currently trying to dismantle Voice of America" and other propaganda machines around the globe.

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        yeah i guess trump represents a greater shift towards inward politics. not interfering with the rest of the world so much, just doing internal stuff.

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        It’s ok when he does it. There is no such thing as a Republican who is able to be shamed by hypocrisy. It’s their super power.

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        VoA is competing with the private sector propaganda wing.

        This is just American Libertarianism taken to its logical conclusion. The mistake the Communists made was thinking Pravda didn’t need to turn an enormous profit.

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                I guess there was a miss-understanding.

                What I meant was this:

                He has either control over content that is published by an entity (like e.g. a network) or he dismantles it.

                Or do you disagree to that too?

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            Oh I forgot the Blue MAGA mantra: “anything the opposition does is automatically bad”
            When they say water is wet you have to deny it.
            Really you all deserve Trump

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          Wrong. It opposed Naziism and Soviet Union misinformation. Since then it’s been a standard journalism outlet that, by law, could not be dictated by US politicians.

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            Thanks CIA operative, it is no secret it has always been a propaganda outlet from your CIA bosses trying to stir up shit in countries they don’t control.
            And the US has never been against nazis, supported them plenty of times before during and after WW2.

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        While being the biggest pusher of propaganda in US history.

        And VOA was only “propaganda” when you consider objective information to be “propaganda”, like dumbfuck Trumpers do.

        Since 1976 the Charter and later the 1994 International Broadcasting Act legally forbid government officials from dictating content. Don’t worry about facts, though.

        Trump himself tried to make it a propaganda outlet, doing the exact opposite of what you credit him for. He put Michael Pack in charge who sidelined editors, froze visas for foreign reporters and scrapped long‑standing “fire‑wall” rules that protect editorial independence.

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          And VOA was only “propaganda” when you consider objective information to be “propaganda”, like dumbfuck Trumpers do.

          the thing is that you can deliver heavily skewed pictures with information that is objectively true. consider the following example:

          it makes it appear as if AOC is pro-genocide

          yet when you actually have more context, you know that AOC is actively anti-genocide, as discussed here. (in the comments)

          so, delivering objectively true information can result in heavily skewed images, due to non-proportionality of information, i.e. some details are exaggerated, others are under-reported. and some journals have a tendency to under-report on specific things while over-reporting on others. so it’s still possible to lie with objective information, i.e. create images that are not true because they’re out of their actual proportion.

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          LOL ‘objective propaganda’
          The US regime lies constantly.
          And especially during the ilegal Iraq invasion.
          They placed items in the news without telling the public they were produced by the US regime armed forces.
          It’s not difficult to know unless you deliberately ignore the obvious truth to fit your agenda.
          So you are a liar, nobody can be this naive or dumb.
          https://scholar.law.colorado.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2248&context=faculty-articles

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          The word “propaganda” is tricky. It has connotations of being lies, but that isn’t always or even usually the case. Objectively true information can literally be propaganda. The mission of the VoA is to spread American propaganda. That’s why it’s funded. That can be truths that foreign governments want to suppress, it can be spin, or it can be lies. VoA is generally pretty truthful, especially compared to the privately run domestic versions like cable news outlets.

          Government officials don’t need to dictate content. As you pointed out, content can be controlled by who is appointed to manage the content. They know the mission.

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            The word “propaganda” means any intentionally spread information. It doesn’t specify whether it’s right or wrong. It’s literally “something to propagate”.

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    Martin: Organized crime?
    Cosmo: Hah. Don’t kid yourself. It’s not that organized.

    – Sneakers (1992)

    Twitter is absolutely going to say “well, we’re definitely not an organised hate group. Sometimes people just hate stuff. We’re just a social media platform, helping people organise. Oh shit”

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    Democratic governments should allow all voices to be heard, not silence speech they dislike.

    That’s real fucking rich coming from the government that:

    • Removed all references to “trans-” regardless of context.
    • Retaliates against left-leaning press.
    • Calls information they dislike “fake news”.
    • Sends immigrants to concentration camps.
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      Don’t forget

      removed funding for weather services or deleted materials related to climate change

      runs from people trying to ask them questions

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        If we’re adding “runs from people trying to ask them questions”, we should be more accurate about it.

        runs from people trying to ask them questions, calling them plants put there by political opponents

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      That because they don’t want free apeech. They want the speech only if its their speech.

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      I’m not even joking, I thought that whoever wrote this tweet was supporting the French investigation when I first read that.

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      EU is not much better.
      You have to be real careful with controversial subjects such as not liking genocide.
      And plenty countries have forbidden communism.
      Not to mention not honoring elections in Romania and anulling them, and not letting the winning party participate again.
      Even if it is a horrible right-wing party that won, that is still a mask off moment.

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      No no, you don’t understand. That doesn’t apply to us plebs (US citizens). It only applies to other countries so that the government can checks notes “strongly condemn” them.

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    The US Administration, more importantly a branch of the department of state, condemns French inquiry.

    A lot of the USA are cheering the French on.