• Flames5123@sh.itjust.works
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    As much as we should hate Tesla, in 2019, they increased the Model 3’s power FOR FREE. I was at 5.2 seconds 0-60, and that was a free update to 4.9s 0-60. I didn’t even have the AWD or performance model. They figured out how to make the motors better and just gave it to everyone. Why isn’t VW doing the same? Fucking greed.

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      Even more so when you understand the car already has it… so they take it away just to make you pay for it

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        Every car has more HP than you get. Cars are tuned to be as reliable as possible in every condition with a variety of fuel qualities. That is why you see test vehicles on the road, they are gathering data to refine the engine tuning.

        That is why you can tune as car and get more HP or even to make them more efficient without changing a single part.

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          But a subscription? That’s more akin to saying we’ll send someone to de-tune the car you’ve had tuned unless you pay us protection money monthly.

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            Its also available as a one time lifetime payment.

            I had a Volvo V70 that I could get an extra 30hp for $2000 through the factory supported polestar tune… I decided not to because I couldnt try before I bought. If I could have bought it for a month then decided I probably would have.

            The Lemmy community is outraged by this, car enthusiasts just see this as business as usual.

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          Yes, but in this instance are they just changing the tuning of the car or did they litterally just make your car worse to charge you for it? And call it an upgrade?

          Edit: this sounds like they want to charge you for sport mode… which is basically on all newer cars… either way its pretty trashy move

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          Not only that but recent lineups from a lot of manufacturers have 95% of the same power train including essential parts, and loads of different models with different tunes. The lowest trim BMW 1 series from a few years ago can be tuned to 200 HP without any mods… it’s illegal in a lot of places, it doesn’t stop people.

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        What’s more egregious about this to me is that you’re required to maintain the subscription for what amounts to a one time firmware change.

        ECU tuning isn’t something that’s going to need constant improvements and updates like your typical software product where companies can somewhat justify continued development costs. The engine and transmission are what they are from the factory and unless VW is going to send you a bigger turbo or other performance part, your tune shouldn’t need to change past the initial improvement from stock.

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      Ofc that subscription covers the extra fuel cost. Right?

      Right???

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    4 days ago

    If buying isn’t owning then stealing a car isn’t actually stealing

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    Y’all know you can buy VAGCOM software and interface and bypass everything VW throttles in a VW right?

    It’s amazing for VWs you actually own too

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    5 days ago

    Own nothing, pay everything. This bs subscription models for everything need to die. And people who thought about them along with them.

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    I hope companies eventually figure out people just aren’t that stupid. Also, I really hope that people aren’t that stupid.

    On a positive note, this could be the push that America needs to get serious about mass transit.

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      It’s pretty much inevitable that someone will figure out how to jailbreak that car. When that happens, you could just download an unofficial patch, get rid of those BS restrictions, and unlock the full potential. Might be also wise to disable whatever wireless communication hardware came with the car. Like, disconnect the antenna or whatever.

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          There may be some casualties as the process iterates through to eventual success. The martyrs of the new world.

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        Not really going to happen, I think, battery warranties make up really big parts of EVs market value. You don’t want to do anything that could risk that.

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          That’s a good point. If it voids the warranty, most people won’t install a patch like that. However, that hasn’t stopped talented hackers from looking for exploits, glitches and vulnerabilities. Obviously, there’s a way in, and someone will find it even if it voids their warranty.

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            Yeah, for sure. A lack of talented people is definitely not the limiting factor here. The Nissan Leaf DIY community is doing awesome things, for instance.

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    4 days ago

    So: time for a reassertion of right of first sale for cars, along with right to repair.

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    When I bought my car one of the first brands I decided against was Mercedes due to their subscription model for their electric car.

    VW going for subscription is a surefire way to give Chinese car manufacturers an even bigger part of the market. So, so short sighted

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    I already hate how much tech is in my 2020 model. I’m going to drive the thing into the ground.

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    “Historically many petrol and diesel vehicles have been offered with engines of the same size, but with the possibility of choosing one with more potency,” they said.

    Lol yeah, with ECU tuning from a third party, you assholes just had a board meeting and realized you could turn it into a subscription and then all came on the table and licked it up

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    I would say that excludes them from my future purchases, but honestly, I’m hoping never to buy a car again. Public transit and bicycling are far cheaper, less polluting, and more sustainable (especially in population centers). Maybe I’ll spend a little of the money I save on an occasional day rental if needed.