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Truth Social is mastodon? 😂
TIL that clown couldn’t even build a unique message board.
Btw, Truth Social is one of donors of the frontend Soapbox, which powers some Pleroma instances.
So Trump doesn’t just use FOSS, he even spends time and money to improve it? What a dick.
So is Gab, but they got defederated by pretty much the entire network so fast that they just gave up and disabled federation on their own end
Who are they and why are they shunned?
Alt-right propagandists, leaning towards the dumbest of their kind
Save haven for racists and Nazis.
Shame. I enjoy laughing at people
You can always make an account.
How about a good old raid? We need to invent a bonkers conspiracy theory first. Something that fools them into doing something good. Like jews don’t want you to donate blood and food because it helps them to keep this country divided.
I was honestly thinking of that during COVID. Have a conspiracy saying that the antivax conspiracies were peddled by russia or some form of deep state thing to kill off people who resist the instructions to get vaccinated
I like the way you think!
I’ve never heard of any of these.
Awesome
Sees a bunch of “freeze speech” including “freespeechextremist”- lol the classic
Sees “freecumextremist”- oh no, the classic!
The name “cum.salon” just kills me
freespeechextremist
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freecumextremistgot me
Sound like fed honeypots to me
fed cumpots
The fact that it is a registered domain is just class.
Are domain name approvals nowadays fully automated or are there still people looking over them?
There’s probably automated checks for certain words that a person might have to look at but it’s likely all automated.
This should include a user count in each so we can see just how many pedos and nazis are being punted to their own little disgusting bubbles
A little correction: while some of pedo instances are full of potential child abusers, others are based on non-offending (i.e. stop fucking children ffs) principles.
The latter are actually extremely important since they provide a gateway for otherwise potentially dangeous individuals to gain support and find professional help. Trying to instead blindly seed hatred towards people with any immutable traits is never productive, be it any mental disorder, sexuality, or otherwise, same as race and gender. In this case, it only prevents pedophiles from seeking help, making them more likely to become the child predator type and actually pose danger to kids.
Being a pedophile is not a choice. Being a Nazi or a child abuser are, and those should fuck themselves (but also reconsider what they do and what they believe in).
Being a pedo may not be a choice, but acting on it definitely is. And any pedo who has to go searching for pedo friendly communities is not looking for help, theyre looking to get off.
Its not a big secret to them that they have something wrong to live with. They dont need a support community to tell them how not to fuck kids. It shouldnt take that much self control for them to not fuck kids…
I’d even bet the vast majority of them already do just fine living normal lives. Just like the vast majority of “normal” adults dont go around raping each other just because they feel sexually aroused by someone.
How do you jump from “searching for pedo friendly communities” to “looking to get off”?
Imagine being a gay in a country where you’ll be in real danger if you’ll ever mention it. Would you like to have someone at least online to talk about how you feel? Probably yes. Same idea. It’s hard to hold up things that big throughout life, as just about any closeted LGBT+ person will tell you.
And then with any attraction that is actually dangerous and also illegal when acted on, like, well, pedophilia, or zoophilia, or biastophilia, or God knows what, there will always be people in doubt on whether they should go for it or not. And a community of people with the same issue telling them “we know how you feel, but CERTAINLY NO” would be way more productive than randoms on the Internet shaming them and putting them into the same bin as actual rapists.
Of course, most of them will probably never offend regardless. But people in doubt, as well as people in mental distress, are to always keep in mind. And if you ignore them, you get more child abuse, more suicides, and more pain and suffering in the world.
Maybe im wrong and they need support. Maybe im not. I certainly am in no position to say one way or another with authority. But i’d rather be wrong about keeping them shamed than be wrong about letting them feel positive about their issue.
Either way, i respectfully am done discussing the topic for now. I will give your opinions some thought though.
I’ll play the devil’s advocate here. Not supporting or opposing your point of view. Just to add to the discussion. Let’s use another extreme: People with a killing spree sexual attraction. I know, I know, it may be not the same, and it’s something that doesn’t exist (God I hope!) But for the sake of the argument, let’s assume it does.
You have this forum of people posting memes about mass killings and frustrations about not being able to kill, but that you would totally never ever kill anyone, even though the urge is there.
What would you think of such community? Would it be a safe one?
(Dear CIA, NSA, FBI agents, the above is just a completely hypothetical scenario. I am a law-abiding citizen. Always have, always will.)
I’d argue it’s way better to give them a platform to vent, so instead of going to the street and killing everyone they post memes and share therapists.
Would I be grossed out? Hell yeah, just like with pedophilia. Would I still think it’s a good thing? Absolutely.
It’s easy to go with your gut feeling and think you’re righteous to follow it. It’s always harder to think it through and do and support what’s actually right.
…there is a joke here that I could make about incel forums. I’m not going to try to because it’s in poor taste, but my point is that I’m pretty sure that does exist…
Also, what’s your actual position if that’s your devil’s advocate position? I’m a bit unsure if the implication there is intentional or not
Well, I don’t really have a position. I think pedophilia is heinous, but I understand that sexual attraction is not a choice. Would an internet forum be a good and healthy supporting tool for pedophiles making an effort to do the right thing? That’s the question I’m trying to answer.
Here’s something I found on the issue:
https://www.nomos-elibrary.de/10.5771/9783748904403-279.pdf
TL;DR it very much depends on the nature of the platform, but peer support platforms like Virtuous Pedophiles seem to be more good than bad, helping in combating child sexual abuse.
Most pedos are nazis and vice versa.
I don’t think there’s a reliable source for that claim, but it’s mean to two groups I don’t like and is therefore true
You got a way with words.
Not aware of any of these, which is nice, but
iddqdcaught my eye since that’s a Doom reference! Overall I always thought the Doom community was pretty positive (at least going by Doomworld forums, and various Doom streamers, as I remember them). I thought surely it must be some misunderstanding! Oh maybe they didn’t reply quickly enough to take down some drive-by hate speech, but that was it.Anyway, holy shit, do not go to that lemmy instance. It’s rotten to the core. I’m going to go take a shower and play through Episode 1 to cleanse myself now.
It’s pretty standard 4chan-NEET fare, for anyone who is wondering. Racism, homophobia, xenophobia, trad wives, and quasi-pro-nazi shit.
Not worth your time to check out. Small community of sad nerds.
4chan wasn’t like that before 2015. Well, except for the racism part. It was leftish/libertarian.
It’s also the easiest “social media” platform to game. You don’t have to make up a history for each user. You don’t have to get upvoted. You don’t even really need to make sense.
And to think, the Q shit started on these sites.
Hell way back in the day, 4chan was one of my go-to websites, before the joking and trolling on /b/ really wasn’t joking and trolling any more.
Back before people who weren’t joking started to join in
Right. The really early oughts, when trolling was still a real thing, were so radically different that it’s hard to explain to people these days
iddqdwas a well known cheat code from the era, not exactly obscure if not contemporary.The Doom fandom will always have the dark shadow of the Columbine High School deaths in its history. So shitty people using Doom to be shitty people isn’t that far from the mark. Nothing will ever change that, sorry.
Yeah…
It’s doomed, don’t worry about it.
Makes me kinda wish that when defederating you could select a one word label for why. Like a fixed list with several options like pedo, spam, harassment, abandoned, etc and a default of other. Make it a bit easier with a big list like this to say, oh 1000 of these 1400 all selected “racism” when defederating so it’s probably very racist and I should also defederate. But if it’s a lot of “other” or inconsistent reasons maybe I should spend a bit of time digging.
You’re looking for this: https://gui.fediseer.com/instances/censured. Us instance admin can also endorse other instances.
db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com is one cool dude. Their fingerprints are all over Lemmy in an obviously much needed manner. I’m glad I joined their instance.
Agreed! I’m really appreciative of folks putting this kind of work into Lemmy.
What’s up with all the pedo instances? Why are they creating instances in an open web? Are they dumb or something? It sounds to me that just registering the domain names of some of those could be considered a crime, nevermind openly inviting and hosting CSAM.
It’s not a crime as long as they don’t post the actual content, I guess
I am not a lawyer, but I imagine there’s no way I could register, or get away with if I do register something like “molester daycare” or “pedo toothbrush for kids”… Oh wait, apparently the last one is actually a thing. Well then I guess it’s not, but man that’s an unfortunate brand name
Honeypots and also to discourage people from engaging to corral people into big tech where surveillance is #1
What does “altfedi” mean? And what content is illegal in Germany and Czechia?
Maybe nazi bullshit? Alt as in alt-right and nazi bullshit being illegal in Germany 🤷♂️
As an instance owner, thank you. Going to use this a lot
What does kiwifarm mean?
Here’s the beginning of the Wikipedia article:
Kiwi Farms, formerly known as CWCki Forums, is a web forum that facilitates the discussion and harassment of online figures and communities. Their targets are often subject to organized group trolling and stalking, as well as doxxing and real-life harassment.
So, it’s an assholefarm.
Although the name originated with one particular site, it looks like the name now applies to any site that serves a similar purpose. Bleah.
oh so it can be used as a weapon?
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I don’t know who/what that is, sorry
It’s the forum mostly concerned with Chris Chan and other similar figures
Sooooo much CSAM and lolicon on there. Disgusting. One question tho, what does “map” mean in this context?
“Minor attracted person” the whitewashed version of the word pedophile.
They’ve defederated from a bunch for no reason including lemmyunchained.net which is what I use. But I still see posts, why is that?
Who are they?
A small instance where members vote on decisions regarding the instance. Haven’t really had to vote on anything though cause it’s so small and not a lot to vote on. But it’s nice it’s there for if we do need it.
I wonder how many of these are defederated from each other too.
Is it all unity among the nazi-pedos or are they fighting amongst each other?
That sounds like a Horror-Movie. Nazi-Pedos: they come for your Arian children.
Historically, Nazis weren’t actually picky about their rape victims.
It was a bad time to be a woman in a Nazi ghetto.
There are all combinations out there, be it pro-pedo-Nazis, anti-pedo-Nazis, and anti-Nazi-pedos. There is no obvious link between the two.
you forgor pro-nazi pedos
If they are pro-Nazi, they are probably just Nazi
If they are pedos, they are probavly pro-pedos
a lot of lemmy instances have the blocked list public
SDF is not one of them
Hypothetically it does, they just don’t block any instances, so it’s empty. They are unlikely to start outside of extreme circumstances.
Likewise for their Mastodon instance, which has been around for a long while.
@tryptaminev @witchdoctor Depends
half are pedo servers 💀
And the rest are racist.
Took a look through some of the ones with tame names out of morbid curiosity; not that interesting tbh. Just hope I’m not on a watchlist now.
Last time I checked reading a racist comment makes you a racist
You just infected us all by turning racism into “I just lost the game.”
You just made me lose the game mate
Woah, it’s been years since the last time I lost the game! Thanks, I guess?
In France, just using the word race to talk about humans is considered racist.
Edit: for people who don’t believe that, he’s an article about that and its consequences when George Floyd-like events happen in France. https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20230705-france-colorblind-nahel-immigration-talk-about-race-laicite-secularism
I’m the biggest racist of them all 🚗🚗🚗🚘🚘🚘🏎🏎🏎 I race all cars
Where/how is this obtained?
I’m curious about seeing an entire list of defederated instances.
Where/how is this obtained?
I’m curious about seeing an entire list of defederated instances.
fba.ryona.agency
Be aware that it doesn’t track when lemmy instances defederate from other fediverse instances correctly and hasn’t for months, and that it’s run someone from one of those 50 defederated instances.
What’s with Pawoo.net? Figured it was something but it’s all Japanese.
I think it’s an NSFW instance of questionable legality (i.e. underage material that’s prohibited in most countries except Japan).
It’s drawings, you can say that, no need to muddle the water.
I honestly don’t know WHAT it is, nor do I care. All I heard when I learned about that site is that it supposedly is a major CP host, so I just avoided it like the plague. Plus it’s all in Japanese anyways.
I thought drawn child pornography was legal in more places but apparently its only about 8 counties. Bafflingly this isn’t one of the things the EU has a united front on. Funnily there are a lot more countries that ban all pornography than there are countries that allow some porn but not fictional child porn.
Eientei? From touhou? Wonder what’s in there. Also was expecting to see the pawoo competitor misskey.io since several japanese artists went there after Musk bought twitter.
I checked. Mostly a handful-of-people instance doing whatever on some Pleroma/Akkoma instance. Not much to see there and not much of what I could see there seemed to make much sense to me. Perhaps the defeds are mostly preventative but I cannot tell.
seal.cafe, cawfee.club and sleepy.cafe sure got welcoming names. Given the number of defederations, I doubt the contents are anything like the names.
Most of them were automatically defederated for not having adequate protection against bot signups, that got nothing to do with sketchy content.
As someone interested in both sides of security game theory, what exactly helps stop bots? I grew up playing RuneScape and hating bots before making r/Artisanvideos and hating them even more. I’ve always wondered if it’s a matter of automatically detecting precise repetitive patterns or just specific giveaway signs.
If the bots are welcomed and they don’t have good enough moderation, this is just sketchy content with extra steps.
An online cafe dedicated to harvesting baby seal fur SEEMED like a good idea…
Jesus one is just called pedo school. What the actual fuck
How to spot a honey pot 101
Really hope so
The internet. It’s a fucked up place. Nothing like what the big players on the internet would have you believe.
So long as there exists a way for people to not get prosecuted, these things will exist.
Realistically, the more accessible the internet becomes the more it reflects the behavior of humanity at large.
These things exist because they’re part of us. The internet probably makes them more visible, but I doubt it makes them more extant.
Why was Alex Gleason defederated?
I think he was employed by truth social for a while, and it might have been just because of his prior involvement as a programmer. But could be wrong about him working there or wrong about that being the reason.
@Jake_Farm @witchdoctor Too based for the leftoid soyboy fedi instances.
Too cringe
WHAT COULD POA.ST HAVE DONE TO GET THAT MANY DEFEDERATIONS
edit: scrolled down in the comments to find my answer
