It was almost at the other side, you bastard!
I was on her side until I read the article. She chased this person an unspecified distance in her car, blocked the chicken killer’s car with her own, then attempted to open their car door, before settling on macing them.
Fuck that impatient chicken killer but you don’t get to do a road rage for some vigilante justice. This was just two psychopaths being brought together by circumstance.
Nah, fuck that chicken killer FAFO
JURY NULLIFICATION
Is this it? Is this the answer?
The driver who killed the chicken is a shit stain and she will eventually kill someone. Imagine if that a child, elderly person or someone on a wheelchair.
Clearly didn’t play Zelda
I’m getting strong Marta vibes from arrested development with this one
The way this kind of animal murder is normalized for drivers is beyond disturbing. Imagine a cyclist who came upon some birds blocking the cycle path, pulled out a pocket knife, and started stabbing them so they could get through 20 seconds faster.
It’s the same psychopathic “might makes right” mentality that makes people turn a blind eye to the needless, systemic, unfathomable horrors of animal agriculture.
I have a Belgian Malinois, which, if you’re not aware, is basicallythe breed of dog used by military and police that aren’t German Shepherds. They are absolute maniacs of dogs, full of all kinds of prey drive and herding instincts and such that have long-since been bred out of your average family pet.
So for a while when I still had a Facebook I followed a couple of Malinois pages to help me better understand what was going on in my dog’s head.
Now some malinois owners are great, they understand the reasons why their dogs are the way they are and understand how to manage them properly.
Others are absolute assholes who just wanted the really cool supersoldier dog that can run up walls and eat bad guys, and don’t really do anything to channel that energy properly
I remember one post in particular of some guy’s dog “playing” with a turtle, picking it up, throwing it around, etc.
I’m a dog owner, I’ve at times dabbled in hunting, I’m an environmentalist and conservationist, I know what sort of laws are out there and what is and isn’t allowed. And people are stupid and make entirely too much information about themselves available online.
So I could see from this guy’s profile what state (and in fact what city he was in, what high school he went to what company he works for, etc.)
And I could easily Google what the laws in that state are
And lol and behold, allowing your dog to harass wildlife is not allowed in that state. There were fines, potentially prison time, the officials could even take your dog and have them destroyed over this. I think it might have even been legal, maybe even encouraged, in that state for anyone witnessing this happening to just shoot your dog on the spot.
I of course wasn’t about to report this guy over this, I didn’t want his dog put down or anything, I just wanted him to be a better, more responsible dog owner, so I pointed this out in the comments, that were, up until that point, mostly just other assholes jerking each other off over how cool malinois are.
He, of course, quickly took the past down after that.
But not before a whole bunch of people got really pissy about me looking at his profile (to see the information about himself that he made publicly available I guess?) and taking the time to Google the relevant laws in his state so that I could point out exactly why what he was doing wasn’t just morally wrong but actually illegal.
There were disturbingly few people commenting on that post who were simply angry that this jackass was letting his dog fuck with a turtle.
As an aside, my dog is a rare “lazy” malinois. She’s still more energetic and driven than pretty much any other dog I’ve ever met, there’s a part of her that definitely wants to eat someone’s face, but she’s content to sleep on the couch all day instead. She definitely would chase some rabbits, deer, foxes, squirrels, etc. given the chance (I don’t give her the chance,) and she’s never seen a turtle, but she seems to like just sniffing and occasionally licking frogs and toads (I try not to let her, but she occasionally finds them before I do on our walks, the amphibians seem mildly annoyed by this, but not enough to hop away from her, and I make sure to get her away from them ASAP so that they can continue frogging undisturbed.)
Stalking people online is fucking creepy, no wonder people got “pissy”.
i don’t know if you can really call it stalking if they’re willingly making information about themselves available for anyone to see. I didn’t have to so much as punch his name into google, just click his name at the top of his post and it was all there for anyone to see.
He didn’t have to put his information out there and make it publicly available, but presumably he was ok with everyone on Facebook having access to that information about him.
And if he wasn’t ok with that, it made him realize his error so he could address it.
Your dog is chill because of the regular frog licking, having achieved inner dog balance through psychedelics lol
Am I allowed to steal “lol and behold”? I want this to become a thing.
By all means, please capitalize on my typo. It’s got a nice ring to it.
Boss at work and his main lackey both got malanois recently, and trained them to attack, but trained them poorly, so now they’ll do the dog equivalent of “two for flinching” regularly. I always just say “the fuck you want?” all mean and loud and they back off, for now…
I’m not looking forward to when I have to mace one of these little cunts if I have to. Like I get it, they’re just “protecting their boss,” but also this is a warehouse, I’m literally required to be here, and if you bite me for needing the pallet jack 5ft from my boss I’m gonna have to protect myself so I can make it to the lawsuit.
Next time, report them.
We dont know the whole story. The second driver might not have seen the chicken until it was too late. Nothing in the story indicates that the second driver purposely hit the chicken, but bear mace in an enclosed environment is no joke and can lead to permanent damage. Nothing about this story is “right”.
I could excuse this as entirely accidental had the person running over the chicken been the lead car, and the chicken suddenly leapt out into the road. Someone else had stopped to let the chicken cross, and this person either presumed they knew better than the stopped driver and whipped around them, or they simply didn’t care. I doubt people would be looking to excuse the driver’s actions had the first lady been stopped for a little kid who ran out into the the road that our chicken killer wouldn’t have been able to see through an entire car obstructing their vision. At the very least, the second driver acted irresponsibly, if not with wanton disregard for the potential hazards.
I got the feeling from the article that the impatient driver didn’t kill the chicken on purpose but rather accidentally, but the article doesn’t really give enough info about that
Framing things as accidents exonerate the type of neglect that has lethal consequences. It’s time to retire the term in the context of traffic violence.
I just feel like it means that it wasn’t on purpose
I’m sorry, but what?!
Do you know of people that intentionally kill animals with their cars? I’ve never once hard of this. That’s serial killer shit.
No, 99.99% of roadkill is accidental.
Yes, I have heard of it. Mother duck and babies crossing the road, my mate and some other cars waiting… Some absolute psycho decided they’re taking too long…
They unfortunately do.
You’ve never seen animals flattened way onto the shoulder, well outside the lines or in the middle of the lane where the car should have gone right over it?
Imagine a cyclist who came upon some birds blocking the cycle path, pulled out a pocket knife, and started stabbing them so they could get through 20 seconds faster.
Not to deny the overall message, but now I want to see a comic strip about that with an unhinged cyclist telling car-persons’ arguments in the most weird way while trashing the poor bird with any next sentence.
CYCLIST: Let me tell you about a cycling efficiency. Keeping a speed doesn’t consume as much energy as constantly speeding up and slowing down, as in the jam you’ve selfishly caused. When I’m hopping on a bike I expect to get from point A to point B in a set amount of time, on a speed aknowledged by the road signs if not a bit faster, as set by a road authority. The infrastructure built exclusively for my mode of transportation doesn’t consider surprise deviations, and as a daily driver I should not care for them too. There are two types of obstacles, and I’m completely in my right to drive over those I couldn’t predict or couldn’t see in time as it’s their own problem that unlike type 2 obstacle they haven’t made themselves visible for me to react as it’s their responsibility to do so. That is not an isolated instance I’m angry at, but a systemic issue that I shall double down on every occasion because giving them a step means they’d take a mile from us, cyclists, the cowboys on gears. Allowing you to jaywalk like that on my lane would mean losing the world I love and brought up to be in. You are a destroyer of the cycling civilization, and it’s only you to blame for what’s coming to you.
Deserved… It could be a child instead of chicken.
in this case, this is especially relevant
The woman stopped to let the chicken cross the road, so there was clearly something happening and obviously some sort of reason that this person was stopped in the road, and the driver behind them sped around and hit the chicken. that 100% could have been a pet or infant or child instead
The woman who hit the chicken made the explicit decision to ignore the warnings that were evident, and still hit something. fucking abhorrent behaviour
The single most memorable part of Twin Peaks season 3 was this exact scenario but with a child, while the mother watched the whole thing, horrified.
edit: okay not exactly like that, the hit and run driver in the Twin Peaks episode didn’t stop and honk, they were just in the wrong lane from the get-go. But still very similar situation
CW: a fictional portrayal of a child dying to a hit and run accident: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V62BJFn-BTQ
Yeah you want to avoid hitting children if you can help it. They are really big and make a mess.
I was taught by my driving instructor to not try and avoid smaller animals because swerving or sudden breaking would be more likely to result in a major accident than simply plowing through it. Whereas larger animals medium sized dog for example could lead to a wider accident if you hit them.
that’s relevant on the highway, not residential neighbourhoods
Yeah when you’re going at 70. Not 30.
You should be aware enough of traffic around you to know if slamming the brakes on presents a significant hazard. (And if you can’t react to an animal appearing in the road you’re likely driving too fast for the visibility and conditions)
Luckily I’ve never had to turn a cat inside out, but they frequently dart out infront of vehicles close enough that slamming on the breaks won’t do much even at low speed. I have a friend who’s cat died on a stretch of road that had a 30 km/h speed limit.
One of the best reasons to keep cats indoors, but yeah I said “likely” because exceptions do exist.
The driver was able to avoid the car stopped in the road to let the chicken cross. Instead of stopping behind them and waiting, they pulled out to cut around the stopped car.
I see this kind of behaviour all the time in my neighbourhood, at a crosswalk with a “kids crossing” sign and curb barriers designed to keep people from cutting around on the right. If someone is stopped to make a left hand turn, they cut on the right anyway, and if someone is stopped to let a kid or an animal cross (animals cross there all the time), they cut on the left.
People have been hit at that intersection. But people still keep doing it.
Surely that’s illegal. Driving on the opposite side of the road, into potentially oncoming traffic, at a pedestrian crossing with no visibility.
I think the problem is Americans just seem to drive like idiots.
I’ve spent a bit of time in the US and your assessment is absolutely correct. I’ve never seen so many car accidents. The highways were lined on both sides with bits of car in varying sizes.
the first time i read the sentence i thought it said children.
Buk buk.
But… Why was the chicken crossing the road? 🤔
To instigate a murder
Well it failed. The chicken’s owner only maced the driver.
Alas, it gave everything and still did not achieve its goals
Because he thought he was standing on the wrong side of the road
Ngl, that would likely be me.
Not just because I like chickens, though that’s a factor.
In my neighborhood, if you go the posted speed limit going one direction in the section that my house is on, you’d be going slow enough to be able to correct and not hit an animal. Going the other direction, as long as you don’t slam the pedal down, it’s the same.
So anyone hitting any critter with the possible exception of squirrels is 99.9~% likely to be doing something they shouldn’t. I’ve gotten in altercations about it before because we have not just a lot of pets in the area, but kids. So some fucking moron is going to hear about out when they’re showing exactly how fucking stupid they are.
But, I also happen to kinda know all the neighborhood chickens. Not necessarily on a first name, come her for petting basis, but I know which birds live where. Since I also have my own, and would gladly curb stomp any motherfucker that fucked with them, I would likely at least lay hands on a motherfucker for killing any of the neighborhood birds by being a moron. I’m old, but my tolerance for fuckery like that keeps getting lower as I age.
Accidents do happen, but some jackass trying to be all badass by speeding in a residential area can fuck right off and die. And yes, I’m talking about you, Robert, you absolute prat. Jackass. Done told you once. Fuckwit.
Anyway, yeah, chances are high the lady was justified as long as the dude is still alive
The chicken didn’t cross the road, but still made it to the other side.
Ok, that wins best chicken crossing the road joke ever.
i cannot put into words how much i despise people who don’t see anything wrong with crushing animals with their car, it’s so fucking gross and IMO should disqualify them from handling a heavy vehicle.
It’s no different than shooting animals with a gun (proper or airsoft or whatever), which i think any sensible person would agree should bar you from owning guns.
It’s no different than shooting animals with a gun (proper or airsoft or whatever), which i think any sensible person would agree should bar you from owning guns.
I think there’s quite a big difference between senselessly running over an animal and shooting one with a gun. I mean hunting for food and animal population control are kinda necessary in a lot of situations, while running over an animal isn’t.
Tbf it’s also safer to hit the animal in many cases than slam on the brakes and possibly get rear-ended or swerve into possible dangerous hazards like other cars or poles. Many driving schools actually teach that it’s often the safest option unless the animal itself is big enough to be a hazard like a deer or moose.
Doing either out of malicious intent is the problem, but then again doing just about anything out of malicious intent is a problem lol. It’s more about the intent than the action.
yeah i kinda obviously wasn’t talking about hunting, but just shooting a possum or whatever because you think it’s fun
hunting for food
Go to Wendy’s
animal population control
Bring back the native big cats
There. Problem solved.
Go to Wendy’s
Don’t really see the difference between going to Wendy’s to eat meat and hunting for meat. Well besides the fact that industrialized farming practices are less ethical.
Bring back the native big cats
We no longer have the same ecology that used to be able to support big cats and wolves, at least in North America. Native Americans spent generations changing the environment to make deer over plentiful. Add that to the destruction of nearly all old forest as European settlers moved west, and it makes it infeasible to utilize apex predators to control the population of deer in the vast majority of north America.
Go to Wendy’s
You would prefer that animals are raised in horrendous conditions without ever seeing sunlight only to be slaughtered over shooting an animal that has grown up in it’s natural habitat?
Like, vegetarians I can get, because they argue that we shouldn’t be eating meat at all. Arguing that industrial farming is better for animal welfare than hunting is just absurd though.
There is a correlative link between the willingness to hurt animals and psychopathy. You start out hiring animals and you are more likely to be okay hurting humans.
If people are going to choose to eat meat, then I would prefer that they are protected from the trauma that comes with animal killing.
There is a correlative link between the willingness to hurt animals and psychopathy.
I think you’re conflating hunting with torturing animals for entertainment…
Not sure I see the difference
Lol, I’m sure you do… you’re just being purposely obtuse. Hunters do not hunt with intent to cause undue suffering to animals. With the animal harm associated with psychopathy the suffering is the express intent of the harm, not a byproduct of it.
If hunting was actually correlated with psychopathy then we’d be in a bit of a pickle, considering that we evolved from hunting and gathering societies.
Yes. Yes they are.
Distancing yourself from the violence doesn’t make you less complicit in the violence.
Eating animals inherently requires a willingness to harm animals. You can either ignore it or you can’t.
I’m not talking about being complicit. I’m talking about exposure.
Just like you’re not exposed to the child slavery that makes your cell phone possible, and that’s good for your psyche.
But if you don’t like that, be vegetarian.
Most people cope like you are here but it’s honestly weird to see someone who is seemingly so self aware but also encourages this ignorance.
Remaining ignorant of these problems doesn’t make them go away or make anyone any less complicit in perpetuating them.
It’s worth considering that it’s possible to eat without harming animals and it’s possible to have a cell phone without child slavery.
Just like you’re not exposed to the child slavery that makes your cell phone possible, and that’s good for your psyche.
Not knowing at all is one thing. Choosing to be willfully ignorant is another.
But if you don’t like that, be vegetarian.
Yeah I agree.
From the totally opposite side of this. I think that people should be required to kill and butcher an animal at least once if they’re going to eat meat.
That would quickly end factory farming, which needs to be abolished anyhow. We’d have a lot more vegans.
If that’s the side you’re coming from then I guess I can understand your argument. I was thinking from an animal welfare perspective, and the argument (which I’ve seen made before) that hunting is inhumane and that people should get their meat at the store instead.
As a side-note, I would really like a link to something backing up that people who hunt for food are more likely to be psychopaths.
Not hunting, hurting. But hunting is hurting.
Too lazy to write details. Please forgive the reddit link.
https://www.reddit.com/r/askpsychology/comments/1fdvifa/why_do_psychopaths_torture_animals/
Holy false equivalency Batman. There is a vast difference between hunting and torturing animals. It is a case where intent and what that one approaches the task has a substantial bearing on the individual’s likelihood of anti-social personality disorder. An ethical hunter shows respect to the animal that they kill by doing their best to minimize suffering (this includes things like choice of weapon as well as ensuring that any game that they shoot it’s tracked down so that they didn’t suffer needlessly).
Do some people with anti-social personality disorder hunt? Yes. Some of them also eat at Wendy’s. You sound like you’re trying to invent a way to make yourself “better than” a large swath of people. I’d suggest that you practice some self-reflection.
I say this as someone who does not hunt but previously worked on a small poultry farm where I had to slaughter as well as euthanize animals. I’ve seen what good and bad quality of life does to animals. Ignoring the plight of factory farmed animals does not make you a better person.
Not sure I agree with the second take. Anyone that eats meat should be ethically required to take an animals life they will eat at some point so they directly know what it means to eat meat. If someone is uncomfortable with the thought of taking an animals life, why are they eating meat and paying someone else to do their dirty work?
I eat meat, but probably not as much as most people. I have butchered livestock and hunted in the past, taking an animals life is not a pleasant thing to do.
I have butchered livestock
I’m sorry you had to do that. It sounds traumatic.
Animals, especially mammals, have complex inner lives, families, and friends. They experience emotion. They play.
I don’t understand how people can look at that and be ok with killing it, and then not think the same thing about the stupider parts of humanity.
I guess people are just less delicious or something. No idea how else it’s justified.
I just don’t see something intrinsically immoral with killing an animal for food. Circle of life and all that. I don’t think anything should suffer unduly so factory farms are a real problem, and there’s an arbitrary line of intelligence/sociality that decides whether an animal is close enough to “personhood” that other principles are involved for me, but taking from nature with reverence and respect does not preclude hunting in my opinion.
Not exactly traumatic, but certainly not pleasant to look into somethings eyes and take it’s life. A lot of men pretend it’s a fun experience to be macho, but I think most people do not enjoy taking an animals life.
If you start out raising an animal for food you accept that you will have to kill it or pay someone else to do it.
That’s a really weird comment coming from (I assume) a Swede, given the popularity of hunting there.
do you think most people hunt here? like stockholm is just full of woodsmen in cabins?
I live in Oslo. Sounds about right 😜
lol, her expression says it all, “Worth it, 10/10 would mace that bitch again.”
Might do a little jail time but the chicken killer will think twice. I mean, christ, you live in Key West. Get on island time already.
Also I’m pretty sure the chickens are legally protected in Key West.
Oh no shit, it’s a thing? So that might not have been someone’s chicken, it was Key West’s chicken? If so, the “perp” is going to be fine.
Oh I guess I assumed it wasn’t just someone’s chicken, the article isn’t clear really.
But yeah it’s a thing if they’re the wild ones I think. https://www.tampabay.com/archive/1999/05/30/protected-by-law-chickens-rule-the-roost-in-key-west/
If reincarnation is real I want to come back as a Key West Chicken.
“They have no natural enemies on this island. We need some hungry foxes. . . . The cats won’t touch them. The chickens are meaner than anything.”
The driver was a first time Skyrim player
AND STAY THE FUCK OUT OF RIVERWOOD!
Lol
When I was a kid there was a turtle on a bridge, my mom stopped so I could move it off the bridge. Some asshole swerved to hit it while I was walking towards it. I picked up a rock and threw it at his car I was so mad.
This is what people are missing here. She was stopped, he whipped around her and crushed the bird because he was an impatient dick. Fuck that guy.
Sorry to hear about the turtle. I’ve had the same thing happen to me while cycling. Maybe they all need bear mace.
That was Shredder.
