My smart tube app wasn’t working tonight so watched YouTube on the normal app. I can’t believe people live like this, it’s actually unwatchable.
yeah. I will go to look something up that I need or want to watch, but I’m often bailing halfway through that advertisement. it’s not even worth my time
Seriously bro! I got revanced on my phone and smart tube next on the tv. I legit had to think about the last time I used the official app and it was nothing but angry memories. Waking up in the middle of a, and I’m not making this up, hour plus long ad! Always auto playing some ai slop bullshit about some murder or something slightly cosmological.
I was jarred by an ad playing during LOTR on HBO just now.
Okay how good is Smart Tube for ypu? I downloaded it to my family Fire TV but my mom just refuses to use it, so we watch long, loud, unbearable ads all the time. I get that there’s no algorithm to find videos, but can you import subscriptions? My mom has noticed YT never shows her a few of her subscribed channels in her recommended anymore.
It’s great. I’m pretty sure you can sign in so you get your algorithm and subscriptions. But it’s an incredible app. Infinitely better than the normal YouTube app.
If you run Fcast receiver on your android TV device, you can cast to it from Grayjay without ads.
There’s an abundance of work arounds, for certain. I’ve been using NewPipe for a year or two now.
Mostly just annoying to go through this ritual of jury rigging every new device to use basic Internet services.
What are ‘ads’? 🤷🏼
I dunno. Some strange relic from the 1980s?
Kidding aside, it’s shocking how bad raw YT is. We watch it via Smartube (or PipePipe as needed). I can’t believe people watch “raw” youtube…it’s unwatchable.
If they ever quash SmartTube and PipePipe…well…I imagine Peertube, Nebula, Libby and Curiosity stream will suddenly become a great deal more popular.
I don’t think the powers that be fully grasp the (very delicate) knife edge they walk. They only stay in business so long as they aren’t annoying enough to be replaced. Actually, who am I kidding - they know that exactly and play the delicate “gently gently” boil frogs in a pot game like grandmasters.
The ads seem to be pretty variable depending on usage so I suspect not everyone is seeing the same thing. I rarely use YouTube in any form. When I do and I’m rawdogging it for whatever reason, it seems like I get a few short ads, like 30s or less. They’re annoying but not awful.
A friend keeps YouTube running constantly on his TV in the background while he works. He gets so many ads and they’re so long! Like several minutes of ads, mostly unskippable, over the course of a 15 minute video. I don’t know how people deal with that shit.
Man, they must LOVE people like him!
Surely, he must know he’s actively contributing to the issue. No?
I would be shocked if he cared. It’s just not amongst his concerns.
Dam ads exist ? Been on YouTube Revanced for 5 years now 😂😂🖕🖕 fuck you google.
I’d very much suggest everyone try YouTube Revanced.
Though android is likely going to crack down on them before the end of the year, so new users should switch to a degoogled or open source phone OS.
Or download the videos using ytdlp, and use a cable to transfer them to your phone like it’s 2012.
I’m on graphene is already
Im using 1Blocker on Safari macOS and iOS and get no ads on YouTube.
Gen X made 90 minute cassette recordings of their favorite music. Back then you could lower the volume to ignore ads and wait for the DJ to trigger your recording. Today I just use the mute on the remote and have my other device handy to watch some other content while waiting for show to come back to the main content. It’s always good to have a mantra about adverting by associating it in your head as indoctrination “Poison” which is what it is essentially.
WATCH THE ADS OR IT’S PIRACY!
Remember when Google was “not evil”? :(
Do the right thing!
But like all corporations once that IPO went through they abandoned any semblance of morality at the alter of obscene profit.
Good thing YouTube itself is skippable.
Thanks, Google. I was trying to cut down my usage of YouTube.
What are the best Fedi alternatives?
Peertube, but lacks content.
If that’s the only issue, then it’s good enough.
It’s what Lemmy was when I started up after reddit killed their 3rd party apps. Like a year later Lemmy exploded
Peertube it is, then.
When I checked the Fedi alternatives were far-right hangouts. Part of that unfortunate “free speech absolutist” == “asshole” phase.
It’s not Fediverse but I like Nebula. It’s more like a co-op so I don’t mind paying for it at all.
Not fediverse, but Nebula is good
I don’t think it’s fedi but I like odysee
Invidious if you don’t wanna install a bunch of software
I mean alternative platforms, not alternative ways to use YouTube (although this looks useful in the meantime, so thanks anyway)
Nebula sound promising.
I like nebula but it is pretty limited. Its mostly educational and essay type stuff. For the price it is amazing and the only streaming platform i have anymore. But i dont know if id call it a youtube alt unless you only watch that type of video. They have a handful of other things too but the variety just isnt there yet. The other thing i both like and dislike is the lack of comments.
I do recommend it though. Crazy affordable, owned by the creators, ad free. Just kind of niche still
What are the best Fedi alternatives?
We’ve got a business model that didn’t even exist 25 years ago, and we’re making insane money!
How can we fuck it up?
You just gotta love the headline in the article, it’s trying to sell it as a great new feature
VRC Non-Skip ads are now generally available, allowing brands to reach TV audiences with Google AI.
It is for their target audience. They’re not talking to you, they’re talking to their customers.
Oh I know, and that is sort of the point that their customers apparently hate humans
Grayjay, feetube, Smartube, Newpipe etc etc…
It’s all fine and fun until Google prevents people from installing third party APKs in a few months…
Invidious
Can they? Because I’ve got a modified YouTube ipa on my iPhone and that’s more closed than Android could ever become in the span of the next few months.
Where can I find more info about this .ipa?
I don’t remember the exact procedure for this, but here’s the summary. You’ll first want to install sidestore or sidestore + livecontainer. Computer needed for that. You’ll also want a stock YouTube ipa file that you can then mod with YouTube Plus or similar utility.
You’ll have to update livecontainer (if you installed it) and YouTube every 7 days unless you have a dev license but Sidestore does it with a single button press in-app so it’s not that inconvenient. You can install ipas within sidestore (limited amount at a time) or livecontainer (as many as you want I believe, but it’s more complicated) without connecting to a computer once the initial setup is done
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For us advanced users true, but for the bulk of people where ”just use this app instead” has worked previously, will not do it anymore. Whole lotta more hoops to jump through and google knows many will not be able to.
There will be an advanced flow for now, maybe (they didn’t explain how it will work). But our freedom is getting restricted nonetheless
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Nothing is ever enough
Line must go up!
Unpopular opinion but youtube + music is good value.
But my journey here was unique.
I grew up during the era when ipods / mp3 players incentivized having personal libraries of music files. After itunes became hostile towards that I switched to Google Music which allowed you to upload music files and stream them to your devices. It was great because I had some obscure remixes and indy band albums that I’d lost the CD for years ago.Ended up paying for Google Music after a 3 month trial.
Eventually Google Music became Youtube Music and with it came Youtube Premium. Tried Spotify but it didn’t have some artists that I can’t remember now anyways. So I just kept paying for youtube music and not seeing ads on youtube.
… Not to be a Dick to you, but imagine paying money to Google. Wow.
We need to pick our battles. I don’t see much difference in paying Google for a service than having a Spotify family plan like I do. I know spotify has its own problems and my money would be more ethically spent on some other service, but with everything else going on life I can’t be arsed to switch to anything right now. For me it gives enough value for the money spent and that’s good enough for now.
Maybe youre too young to remember when iTunes charged $15 for a digital album in .AAC
Thanks for making lemmy just a little bit redditer. I’ll block you now
I am talking about ethics here. Not your favourite method of listening to music.
Paying money to Google is one of the worst unethical decisions you can do.
Hate me as you want, but this is just the raw truth.
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
For everyone saying they’ll leave YT, Google knows there are nine that won’t, so they’ll keep pushing till they hit the wall where this becomes unprofitable for them.
Personally, if it ever gets to the point that I can’t avoid ads on YouTube, I will stop watching, except for the occasional tutorial that I can’t find an alternative for–so maybe, a couple of times a year.
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